Talk:Yi Jeong-gyu

Close paraphrasing
Hi, it looks like there are some issues with the text very closely paraphrasing source text like the Hwang 2016 book. See recent edits to the article for some examples. Would you please recast these sentences completely in your own words? They should largely not repeat the structure or phrasing of the source material, which would be a copyright violation. czar 04:22, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I pulled the DYK nomination from prep because of the copyright issue. Thanks for your pointing the issue out. SL93 (talk) 22:28, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
 * All credit to this thread. Let's give the editor a chance to correct their edits, as they're new and might not be aware about copyright., please read through the link above and confirm that you understand the issue and how to correct it? We're here to help if not. czar  18:28, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
 * In particular it looks like the paragraph in Anarchism in Korea that starts with "Yi Jeonggyu (1897–1984)..." and the one two paragraphs after that was the basis for a lot of this. There are some things that are less concerning (eg the "Beijing Special School for Esperanto" sentence is very close to its source, but there are only so many ways you can write "he set up a school and taught in it"), but others are very close both in exact wording and in meaning/format. @Jirangmoon, I think you should look at the paragraph on the farming village in particular. There are several sources in the footnotes, but the way it's written mostly follows Anarchism in Korea. Right now the paragraph in this article is mostly about the farming village, rather than Yi Jeonggyu himself, but maybe the Korean-language sources can help you refocus it? That might be a good way to avoid the close paraphrasing problems. -- asilvering (talk) 07:05, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Been a few weeks so attempting to do this myself. Should I continue with re-paraphrasing the rest of the Hwang 2016 citations, or is it likely that the Korean translations and other citations have the same close paraphrasing issue? I.e., should I continue or would WP:TNT be preferable? czar  20:13, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Hm. My instinct would be that close paraphrasing is more likely when there's an English-language source. (In my teaching experience, the more common mistake when using non-English sources is that someone comes across a key word that is unfamiliar and translates it into something that was in the translation dictionary/google but comes off extremely strangely in context.) I thought I would try to see what a google translate version of the Korean-sources-only sentences looked like, and actually there aren't very many in this article at all. If He served as President of Cheongju University in 1958 and President of Sungkyunkwan University in 1963 and retired in 1966. is a word-for-word translation of one of the Korean-language sources, well... maybe that should concern me, but it doesn't. So I think this should be fine if it stays far enough away from Hwang's words. -- asilvering (talk) 20:43, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. If it was mostly Hwang 2016 then I've rewritten those portions and remove the maintenance tag. There are some multi-citation footnotes that will be hard to verify across multi-language sources. czar  21:40, 16 July 2022 (UTC)