Talk:Yogyakarta Sultanate

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Titles of Immediate Family Members
 * Garwa Padmi (The Queen) : Gusti Kanjeng Ratu
 * Garwa Ampeyan (Concubines) : Kanjeng Raden Ayu
 * Putra Mahkota (Crown Prince) : Kanjeng Gusti Pangeran Adipati Anom
 * Son / Daughter of the Sultan from Garwa Padmi : Gusti Raden Mas/Gusti Raden Ajeng
 * Son / Daughter of the Sultan from Garwa Ampeyan : Bendara Raden Mas/Bendara Raden Ajeng
 * Son of the Sultan (prior to his initiation as Crown Prince) : Gusti Bendara Pangeran Haryo (GBPH)
 * First daughter of the Sultan from Garwa Padmi : Sekarkedhaton
 * Second daughter of the Sultan from Garwa Padmi : Sekartaji
 * Third daughter of the Sultan from Garwa Padmi : Candrakirana
 * First son of the Sultan from Garwa Ampeyan: Bendara Raden Mas Gusti, after marriage his title changes into Gusti Pangeran.
 * First daughter of the Sultan from Garwa Ampeyan: Bendoro Raden Ajeng Gusti, after marriage her title changes into Pembayun
 * Oldest daughter of the Sultan from Garwa Ampeyan: Kanjeng Ratu.

Titles of Extended Family Members and the Descendants
 * Male family members of second to fourth generations: Raden Mas, after marriage the title changes into Raden or Raden Tumenggung
 * Female family members of second to fourth generations: Raden Ajeng, after marriage the title changes into Raden Ayu
 * Male family members of fifth and subsequent generations: Raden Bagus, after marriage the title changes into Raden
 * Female family members of fifth and subsequent generations: Raden Roro, after marriage the title changes into Raden or Raden Nganten

Title that is bestowed upon and cannot be passed on to the next generation
 * Male: Kanjeng Pangeran Haryo

To be reinserted it needs a reference - great information - but no backup SatuSuro 04:55, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

2 Principalities Is Wrong

 * During the era of Dutch occupation there were two principalities, the Yogyakarta Sultanate (Kasultanan Yogyakarta) and the smaller Pakualaman Duchy / Principality (Kadipaten Pakualaman).

This is wrong, incorrect, and contradictive. A Principality (or Princedom) can either be a monarchical feudatory or a sovereign state, ruled or reigned over by a monarch with the title of Prince or by a monarch with another title within the generic use of the term Prince. Hence the name, Principality. Kadipaten Pakualaman is indeed a Principality, since it's headed by a Prince of Pakualaman, so Principality of Pakualaman is right. But Yogyakarta is NOT a Principality. Since it's founded, Prince Mangkubumi was already styled as a Sultan, not a Prince anymore. And a Sultan is a monarch of a higher rank than a Prince, in the same position as a King. So, it's a Sultanate, not a Principality. Sultanate of Ngayogyakarta Hadiningrat is led by a Sultan, not a Prince. Also, unlike the British Empire, the Dutch never called the Sultan of Yogyakarta as a merely Prince, he's still called a Sultan.

Saying that in Yogyakarta during the era of Dutch occupation there were two principalities is completely wrong. There are differences between a Kingdom (led by a King), a Principality (led by a Prince), a Sultanate (led by a Sultan), a Khanate (led by a Khan), a Khaganate (led by a Khagan), a Duchy (led by a Duke), etc.

Do you want to say that the United Kingdom is the same with the United Principality? And that they are interchangeable? I bet you don't. I prefer to say During the era of Dutch occupation there were two monarchies in Yogyakarta, much appropriate.

Regard,

Yofan Pratama P (talk) 19:41, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Correct title of Sultan
The correct title of "Sultan Hamengkubuwono" according to this law is (with little correction):
 * Ngarsa Dalem Sampeyan Dalem Ingkang Sinuwun Kanjeng Sultan Hamengku Buwono Senapati Ing Ngalaga Ngabdurrakhman Sayidin Panatagama Kalifatullah

which is corrected as said:
 * The title is always started with Ngarsa Dalem first (lit. "His Excellency")
 * kanjeng replaced by kangjeng (the historic, original Javanese word according to Poerwadarminta's Baoesastra Jawa is spelled kangdjeng)
 * correction of religious title is ngabdulrakhman sayidin panatagama khalifatullah.

Thanks. Matur nuwun. Alqhaderi Aliffianiko (talk) 01:06, 8 July 2019 (UTC)