Talk:Yosemite bowline

Wrong knot in info box
The knot depicted in the info box is not the same as the one described in the other image. It also doesn't "feel" right because it moves a bit. Could someone else confirm? --Oxygene123 (talk) 22:42, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes, that was my mistake, thank you for pointing it out. I corrected the picture (thank God I didn't actually used that knot...) Nodurosul (talk) 15:01, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Provenance
The German version of this article says that:
 * the knot was invented by John Harlin in the 1970's
 * the knot was named by Chris Semmel, from the German Alpine Club

But as far as I can tell, it gives no reliable sources to back this up. If this information is valid, it should be put into this article, but I can't find any corroborating information. --Hirsutism (talk) 16:02, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Claims of having "invented" a knot are very difficult to sustain, not least because of the question of whether a knot actually can be invented.
 * Who was first known to publish, promote, or name a knot is sometimes more clear. (But not usually... :) I personally have not seen any sources claiming anything much more specific than the knot was first known to have been used by climbers in the Yosemite Valley.  If there are good sources which give more information, I'm sure it can be worked into the article in a NPOV way.   --Dfred (talk) 15:25, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Is it really a bowline???
Finishing up the bowline with the Yosemite finish actually unties the bowline and creates a different knot: www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dj5Y3h1AEI — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.181.64.209 (talk) 10:32, 15 July 2012 (UTC)