Talk:YouTube/Archive 4

youtube
YouTube is jjj very popular, but at the same time the technical specifications are only poorely documentated by YouTube itself, almost ridiculous.

Therefore I appreciate people, who have tried to document on various blogs and other sites, what YouTube itself didn't. But among them are also many rumors.

a mistake. It would probably have a database and an entry type system sort of like the one already in use by wikipedia. It would also be possible to add text and hight quality images in a not conspicuous place, like under the video screen, that users would be able to access for more information. The additional content could even be another video itself, so that users could shift to that video if they felt like taking the video in another direction. Basically it's a very ritch multimedia contect that anyone could edit with a bit of practice and would include all types of myltimedia like videos, pictures, and sound.

For example, visitors would be able to watch a video and see something on the screen like an ipod that would flicker when a mouse is pointed at it that would take the viewer to a new video or page about that item. Users would also be able to connect parts of videos together if they feel like a smooth transition could be made from one video to another. Basically it would be like watching television that would never end because the videos would always lead to somewhere else, but the user would be able influence the overal direction where the video goes.

In another example, the software would analyze the users mouse movement patterns to determine the users interest and preferences and accordingly decide which videos to play inserting articles and sounds at sounds at particular times to enrich the experience. In a later version the user would also be able to provide imput or feedback through the keyboard and possibly microphone / camera.

Framerate
They contain various framerates:


 * Sources from NTSC countries tend to have 29 fps.
 * Sources from PAL countries tend to have 25 fps.
 * Sources uploaded from mobile phones feature various framerates somewhere inbetween 10-20 fps.
 * And other exotic framerates are present as well.

Conclusion: The YouTube re-encoding engine does not seem to change the framerate of source-material!

Picture Size
320x240 seems to be the maximum.

If videos are uploaded with a lower size, YouTube seems to leave their size untouched.

I came across videos featuring those aspect ratios:


 * 320/256=1.250
 * 240/180=1.333
 * 256/192=1.333

Conclusion: Not entirely clear to me. It must be something like this: If larger than 320x240 downscale (possibly distort aspect ratio), otherwise leave as is.

PutzfetzenORG 14:16, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Apple TV/YouTube announcement
Being a long time wikipedia browsing-addict, I'm only just now getting to know the editing process. I'd love any suggestions, help, or criticisms (i don't even care if they're uncivil criticisms, honestly) regarding the information I added about the Apple TV's upcoming support/integration(?) with YouTube. I also added the fact that because of said announcement, all current content will be transcoded to the H.264 standard, while new content will be automatically encoded in H.264. I have a few sources, and I'm working out which are best to use and how exactly I go about setting up a footnote anyway. So soon after this announcement, there's not a whole lot that can be said beyond what I added, as much about the arrangement remains unknown. I think it would be good to follow the developments so we can flesh out the details (and potential effects on YouTube in terms of popularity, financial issues, and potentially even a large scale switch to H.264 video format(seems unlikely)) In the interest of full disclosure, I'm an unrepentant Apple admirer, and though I always try to present things fairly, I'm only human. So please, please, please tell me/change any perceived bias in my updates. Any more currently public details I missed, as well as good source material would also be appreciated. And a brief postscript: if this is the wrong place on the discussion page for me to have posted this, please go ahead and move it, and I'll gladly apologize and admit my ignorance. Come to think of it, I'll go ahead and admit my ignorance right now. (*Apology offer still applies. Valid through June 10, 2007) Dreadloco 18:13, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm also coming across conflicting sources as to whether new uploads will be converted to h.264 starting in june (now) or starting on the release of the update by Apple... Dreadloco 18:31, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Well, since I'm still not entirely clear on how to properly reference, and I'm still trying to find the best source, I think I'll get references up tomorrow unless someone is super nice and takes a look at it and helps me out or just adds references to it, as it might be pretty easy if I weren't so tired. Dreadloco 23:26, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Most Featured
Does anyone know if there is a verifiable source to check how many times an editor has been featured. I know Lasse Gjertsen has been on the front page at least four times, and possibly five. Cannot find a source to verify this however. After a length of time it no longer shows on the "Honours". Raerth 21:43, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Only some videos honor's are taken away. If some kids watch it, they see some one in the video might say some tiny swear, or something weak like "Crap" and flag it inappropiate. If Youtube feels it's needed, they then theive the video all honors.

Inconsistent listings under "Fame beyond YouTube"
When possible, should we list notable YouTubers by their full names? I'm torn on the issue. Ichormosquito 04:35, 9 May 2007 (UTC)


 * When they have articles we should, otherwise not IMO, SqueakBox 17:22, 10 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Here's what it might look like:


 * Back Dormitory Boys
 * Luke Barats and Joe Bereta of Barats and Bereta
 * Brooke Brodack, a.k.a. Brookers
 * Chad Vader
 * Esmée Denters
 * Lisa Donovan, a.k.a LisaNova
 * Emmalina
 * Lasse Gjertsen, a.k.a. Lassegg
 * Ben Going, a.k.a. boh3m3
 * Xavier Nazario, a.k.a Naztradamix, creator of The Juggernaut Bitch!!
 * Ian Hecox and Anthony Padilla of Smosh
 * Caitlin Hill, a.k.a. TheHill88
 * Tony Huynh, a.k.a. thewinekone
 * Jeong-Hyun Lim, a.k.a Funtwo
 * Luke Johnson, of the Luke Johnson Phone Experiment
 * Noah Kalina


 * lonelygirl15
 * Andy McKee
 * MadV
 * Juan Mann of the Free Hugs Campaign''
 * Erik Mongrain
 * Terra Naomi
 * Peter Oakley, a.k.a geriatric1927
 * Olde English
 * Melody Oliveria, a.k.a. bowiechick
 * James Provan, a.k.a. GiR2007
 * Paul Robinett, a.k.a. Renetto
 * Stevie Ryan
 * Richard Stern, a.k.a. rickyste, a.k.a. "Lazydork"
 * Liam Kyle Sullivan, a.k.a. Kelly (The Shoes Song)
 * Chan Yuet Tung, a.k.a. the Bus Uncle

Personally, I think the improvised list we have now is more intuitive. Ichormosquito 19:35, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Reasoning: The above list is more formal; but for consistency's sake, we might as well drop any pretense of listing human beings. We indiscriminately list YouTube serials with actual people.   By focusing on usernames, everything on the list becomes of the same type: an entertainment venue.  If we do end up going with a list like the one above, we should mention notable YouTube serials in a separate section.  Ichormosquito 02:28, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I would vote for listing by real name and display name in italics, no real justification for why though :) Raerth 21:49, 14 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Chad Vader sticks out like a sore thumb. Ichormosquito 03:24, 15 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I posted a modified version of this list, ironing out my consistency issues. Things could get hairy once more YouTube serials become notable. Ichormosquito 15:03, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Most popular videos
yes let's advertise people —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.109.218.172 (talk) 21:02, 15 May 2007 (UTC).


 * I agree. I honestly don't see the need for that to be in there at this moment.  Does YouTube have its own "Greatest views" list? RJaguar3 16:48, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Eh. I don't see the problem.  This is a dynamic, online encyclopedia.  If we can, why not list them? Ichormosquito 19:17, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Reinstate this section!

A list is not really necessary because you can just go to the youtube front page for the most popular videos: featured, most viewed, most discussed, top favorites. If anything, all we should have is a mention of that somewhere in the article. Chainer29 05:01, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

To-Do list
It keeps getting vandalised... ∆ Algonquin  13:45, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

YouTube Banned in Morocco
Since May 26th 2007, users from Morocco are unable to access YouTube.com, the ban was not confirmed yet by the authorities.
 * Youtube is accessible again from morocco, the ban only lasted few days. Article should be updated.
 * 75.72.123.122 02:42, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Bad links?
Lots of porn links and such. Shouldn't those be taken out?


 * Agreed--website names that have nothing whatsoever to do with YouTube and simply contain "tube" within their name are just veiled attempts to get traffic. All such mentions should be kept out of this article! WorthWatching 18:02, 3 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I feel that the link to "NetworkOne Australia" should be removed from the subtopic of Index sites under Technical Notes, its filled with lots of advertising, very little content and doesn't seem to be a particularly noteworthy site. 219.90.192.25 11:46, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Technical stuff re: honors, # of views, etc.
If anyone can find/has found technical information as to how much the "Honors" fluctuate, how often the view count is updated, etc., it would be educational to add. As someone following a particular serial, I've noticed that it seems to update about once an hour, and that after an honor ceases to apply (e.g., what was "Most Viewed (today)" is not necessarily the most viewed the following day), there doesn't seem to be any lasting record of the status achieved, the way there would be with a music single. Lawikitejana 10:00, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Dealings with BBC and Scientology?
Should the events going on right now, related to the BBC's documentary "Scientology and me", be added to the page?
 * With careful wording, it could be. I'd say though that it may be worth waiting until it's all settled and see if it is worthy of putting it into the artile. --Andrewjd 18:25, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Nah. Add it to the Scientology section, if it isn't there already. Ichormosquito 20:59, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Don't read this... or do. Wait, in fact, DO read this.
Why isn't there a section on those stupid freakin chain letters? --Jnelson09 22:19, 10 June 2007 (UTC)


 * While they annoy the $*^#@#!%$ out of me, they're not notable for inclusion in this article. -- RattleMan 22:22, 10 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Are you sure? It's so widespread, it's like some kind of insane cult. --Jnelson09 21:04, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Catagorys
is there a catagory for wikipedians who have youtube accounts? ♥Fighting for charming Love♥ 16:59, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Mia Rose
I feel mia rose should be added to this list of fame from youtube. she is now very famous and was not before youtube
 * While you might be correct, you need to find a news article of which she is the subject, or be ready to argue that having the 3rd most subscribed YouTube channel automatically affords one WP:Notability. I'd back you up, at least.  The article is waiting to be written at Miaa Rose, so get to it!  Ichormosquito 23:06, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

U.S. presidential debate hosted by YouTube
A mention of this should go under the political heading: YouTube and CNN Discuss "Most Democratic" Presidential Debate Ever Ichormosquito 23:10, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

YouTube video editor
Someone should incorporate this story, too: YouTube Remixer: Edit Videos Online At YouTube Ichormosquito 07:45, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Kevin Nalts (nalts)
I believe the edition of Kevin Nalts' name to the Sharing Revenue section should remain. He made a bold move to be included in the program by starting the NAPPY campaign where thousands of fans hounded YouTube execs and was successful. The only source I have is the video announcement:

YouTube Video Format
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJF4hq_0Swg

Does this count as a reliable source? Ajani57 14:06, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Technical Difficulties
Everything normally Flash on YT appears to be a broken Quicktime file. Here are two screenshots. Explanations...? http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q230/The4sword/thatsbad2.png http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q230/The4sword/thatsbad.png--The4sword 19:31, 19 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Go into your QuickTime MIME Settings and tell it not to associate itself with Flash files. In QuickTime 7, this is found by going Edit -> Preferences -> Quicktime Preferences -> Browser (tab) -> MIME Settings -> Miscellaneous. Uncheck "Flash media" and that should work. -- RattleMan 21:28, 19 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks!--The4sword 06:23, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Unrelated, but still a technical difficulty, I notice many Comcast east coast users (including me) are having trouble watching videos on the lax.youtube.com server for a couple of weeks now. (in the comments) and. Is this notable to include? --Darkdan 06:12, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Standards for YOUTUBE Celebrities
The standards for so-called YouTube celebrities has become totally absurd at this point. We need to develop standards and protocols for dealing with these users. Otherwise, they will take over the entire article. The entire section on FAME Beyond Youtube needs to be removed due to bias. Sexyorge 14:15, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

1) DO NOT ADD YOUR OWN YOUTUBE PAGE OR ANOTHER PERSON'S VIDEOS FOR THE PURPOSE OF ADVERTISING. 2) Add ONLY notable people, with references.'' 3) DO NOT ADD YOURSELF, OR SIMPLY SOMEONE WHO HAS HIGH INTERNET TRAFFIC VIA YOUTUBE. 4) DO NOT create an article for yourself and reference it here for means of advertising. 5) DO NOT add people that don't have Wikipedia articles of their own. Red links will be removed on-sight and the user adding them will be warned! Thanks.

These statements are ludicious. The notion of fame beyond youtube has nothing to do with the article. users, contributors need to stop promoting and advertising these people for their future careers. it's becoming a loose resume/cv. Sexyorge 14:25, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

recent changes in the YouTube Categories
Hi There :)

about 2 days ago, youtube removed a part of the video-section that referred to the categories in a way that allowed browsing videos with selected properties.

an example... i liked to browse ``top rated - this week - Howto & DIY´´. or i also liked ``top favourites - today - comedy´´. this is no longer possible! the only thing that you can get in a way so that it is sorted by categories is videos that youtube employees have selected.

this is a shift from an user-driven broadcasting system to a corporate-driven broadcasting system, from community to tv-station.

capnoawesome (not that important, he was simply the first one to do it) made a video about this, asking people to rate it up and spam it with comments and make video responses. in his oppinion the changes would ``kill the little guy´´.

the video can be found here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq4n7SsFCgk

this change in youtube marketing strategy and the wave of criticism it causes might deserve being mentioned in the main article.

- kurtilein3

Kurtilein 01:32, 22 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Something is deffinately happening. The ability to search by category seems to come back. In YouTube's blog entry regarding that, they were caught in a lie. Many people seems to be unhappy about that.


 * (Basicually YouTube states that "It was actually not our intention to take this helpful function away from you." AFTER having sent many emails to people who wanted the function back, that said "We've recently made a few changes to our site. We've added some new features and replaced a few others. The search by category feature is no longer available. This has been replaced by the option to search based on "Relevance", "Date Added", "View Count" and "Rating".")


 * - Doyubi

Download YouTube Videos
I keep on posting a link to a site called DownloadYouTube that lets users download youtube videos,but wikipedia user "esanchez" keeps on removing it. esanchez, also is posting the incorrect youtube terms of service. He says users cannot download youtube videos. But if you all go to YouTube's terms of service here:

http://youtube.com/t/terms

It clearly states this:

"If you download or print a copy of the Content for personal use, you must retain all copyright and other proprietary notices contained therein".

So you are allowed to download youtube videos as long as you follow the terms of service.

I do not know why "esanchez" cannot understand this.Daabomb 01:43, 25 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Get him blocked. Scorpionman 02:36, 28 June 2007 (UTC)


 * are you viewing an old cached version of the TOS? it does not say "if you download" anywhere, but i do see
 * "Accessing User Videos for any purpose or in any manner other than Streaming is expressly prohibited"
 * --Ditre 20:55, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

This is what it says on youtube's Terms of Use. "Content on the Website is provided to you AS IS for your information and personal use only and may not be downloaded, copied, reproduced, distributed, transmitted, broadcast, displayed, sold, licensed, or otherwise exploited for any other purposes whatsoever without the prior written consent of the respective owners".

Near the end it says "WITHOUT THE PRIOR WRITTEN CONSENT OF THE RESPECTIVE OWNERS". So you can download the videos as long as you get written consent from the video owner.Daabomb

Recent Abuse of the Flagging System
Users have signed up just to flag videos. The most prominent example would be "Yu-Gi-Oh! The Abridged Series" by LittleKuriboh, which was flagged simply because users don't like him. The abuse of the flagging system should be noted in the article. Ggctuk 11:48, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Union flag?
Is You tube putting the Union Flag upside down on there site notable enough to be put on here. Buc 20:33, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Language
Is there any way to report harassment and abuse on YouTube? Some user on there called me a "mother******" and "shithead" and other sorts of foul names just because I prefer the American Godzilla over the Japanese one. There is no excuse for such profanity and I wish the administrators would do something about it, but I don't know how to notify them. Scorpionman 02:47, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry, this page is to discuss the article YouTube here on Wikipedia. For general YouTube questions please ask elsewhere. — M ETS 501 (talk) 03:01, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your help! (sarcasm) Scorpionman 12:41, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Reference
Hi, One of your references is out of date. I work for the site you quote, and we've just moved to a new url. This reference "# ^ YouTube Hires Its First CFO: Yahoo's Treasurer (September 2, 2006). Retrieved on 2006-09-09." needs to be updated to this address...

http://www.techconsumer.com/2006/09/02/youtube-hires-its-first-cfo-yahoos-treasurer/

Firemeboy 15:24, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
 * ✅ Done, and thanks for the update. In the future, though, you can feel free to make such changes yourself.  For more information about how footnotes (references) work on Wikipedia, see Footnotes. — M ETS 501 (talk) 16:55, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

There was a reference in the article which stated that Youtube is available in the languages of a number of countries - the list included Ireland. In fact the YouTube site for Ireland is available only in the English language and not in the Irish Language (Gaeilge)Coolavokig 10:49, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

YouTube gatherings
Small distinction to incorporate into section: 777 isn't an As One gathering. Since 777 is a current or recent event, I'm not going to change it until things settle down a bit. There might end up being reliable sources to incorporate. Ichormosquito 06:41, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Age - please answer quickly!
How old do you have to be to sign up on youtube? My brothers can't do it (he's 11)
 * I think it's 13. Ichormosquito 01:43, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
 * It's thirteen. A family account got banned because an eleven year old made movies by himself without his mom or dad. There's a video about the dad lecturing them. It's right here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fuu4YzNaQCk

Littlekuriboh
is it worth mention that Littlekuriboh has been suspended? ♥Fighting for charming Love♥ 10:40, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

How about Jesari?

List of YouTube celebrities‎
I've split off the list of YouTube celebrities‎ to a new article. This one is starting to get too long, IMHO. --ElKevbo 17:10, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Good move, I too think it was time to split it off. WorthWatching 20:09, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Please watchlist it as it does attract a fair amount of spam and well-meaning but poor edits and additions.  --ElKevbo 20:16, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Link 16 not working/ User influence
Link 16 isn't working... it's supposed to link to an Orlando Sentinel report regarding the YouTube online users' support of Obama, Clinton, Biden and Paul, but the link doesn't go anywhere. Moreover, and this is a purely personal note, I'm not quite certain that Biden receives a ton of internet attention on YouTube... I'd have to really dispute his inclusion in this article. --Pruiz 06:55, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

CNN-YouTube Presidential Debates
Is there any reason that this isn't mentioned in the article? I would add it myself, but things like this are usually posted sooner, so I figured that it had already been posted and removed. Is it not considered "notable" enough for the article, or does no one care enough to write about it? --Wikivader 23:13, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

--I'm wondering the same thing. I came here to "check the facts" after seeing a number of the YouTube debate vidoes conveniently edited out or unable to download properly. I'm not usually a conspiracy theorist, but I'm guessing everyone's politically embarrassed about the candidness of the YouTube questions and wants to forget about it. Bollocks I say.

Recent events
The section title needs to be changed as "recent" is a relative term to now. Yonatan talk 02:45, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Go ahead and change it, or at least make a suggestion. -- Zim Zala Bim ( talk ) 02:58, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Heh, if I had known what to change it to, I would've done so. :) Yonatan talk 03:47, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Source for "New York Times reports anti-U.S. attack videos"
The link currently provided for the source of the information within the section entitled "New York Times reports anti-U.S. attack videos" leads to a page that requires a login and a password to read the intended article. This renders the source useless to those Wikipedia users who do not wish to register with the New York Times website. Could someone possibly provide a link to a version of this article or to a different article that does not require a login and a password? ~ Homologeo 07:48, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

On the encoding of audio in YouTube videos.
In this article about YouTube it states that YouTube streams its videos with the MPEG-1 Audio Layer 3 codec in monaural format once videos are uploaded by registered users. But it is possible to include audio in uploaded videos as stereophonic. This user did so; and my point of this comment is to change what it says in 'Audio format' in the headline 'Technical Notes'.

- -MootTK 08:48, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * You can have YouTube videos with stereo sound, but you have to convert the file to the FLV format yourself if you want that. Two programs that do this (on Mac anyway) is ffmpegX and VisualHub. On Windows I believe Riva's FLV encoder will do the trick, as evidenced by . Hope that should do it if you're going to add it to the article. --  M  (speak/spoken) 12:55, 31 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Sure:

-MootTK 23:53, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * This article is only semiprotected, so nearly any editor can make the changes, if appropriate. Cheers. --MZMcBride 13:10, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

privacy policy
taking into consideration that the privacy policy says they keep meta-data, and there is nothing about sharing with third parties in the policy, couldnt they share your meta-data with a third party without your direct consent?--207.219.101.61 16:27, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

youtube notable alumni
It might be worth noting that the founder of YouTube, Jawed Karim, while he was a student at UIUC, did not actually graduate. --Wsgy127 03:49, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

M.U.G.E.N a copyright infringment?
Would someone please remove M.U.G.E.N as being a copyright infringement, because it's not. if the author were to actually read the legality concerning M.U.G.E.N creations, this would be obvious to them.

If it was being listed only to describe one of the things YouTube has problems with, then that's alright, but the article seems to consider M.U.G.E.N (specifically characters created for it) to be a copyright infringement, which is untrue. If someone wants to debate this with me, then go ahead. --M.K. 22:43, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Automatic Archiving
This talk page seems to go through occasional spurts of high activity. In order to keep the page manageable, since it's presently quite long, I've set up automatic archiving through MiszaBot for all threads older than 30 days. --Darkwind (talk) 22:55, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Influence on other sites
A request was made to better reference this section, which I removed, here's why: One of the ways to definitively reference this section would be to simply list a bunch of websites with "tube" in their name--we all know they exist and why--however, this would open the door to turning this article into a not-so-subtle promotional platform for such knock-off websites, which we have been trying to avoid. I do not believe we should attempt to further reference this section, unless those names can be kept out entirely. WorthWatching 20:08, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I completely disagree with your assertion that "we should [not] attempt to further reference this section". I agree that simply listing *tube websites would be a mess.  It would also be original research.  But because that one particular method would be incorrect and problematic does not relieve us of the burden of supporting our assertions with quality references.  If the material is worth including in this encyclopedia article then I'm sure there are a few good references.  --ElKevbo 20:15, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, we're in agreement--you may have missed the conditional at the end: "...unless those names can be kept out entirely." Things ought to be referenced, but in this instance, I wanted to draw attention so we avoid having people take the easy road and just start listing *tube* websites, which would turn into a promotional zoo.  WorthWatching 04:04, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Gotcha. We seem to be in agreement.  I've got enough zoos to babysit right now. :)  --ElKevbo 04:11, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, I tried a couple times to add a preface to the section, so people seeing the notice don't decide to just list examples, but it didn't take; maybe I'm just doing it wrong. WorthWatching 04:57, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

I removed this section - it was original research. Find me a reliable source noting that YouTube has had influence on other sites, and then we'll talk. -- Zim Zala Bim ( talk ) 01:15, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I concur with ZimZalaBim and ElKevbo. --Coolcaesar 20:28, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

advertisements
can someone update this to include information about InVideo ads in youtube videos? 96.226.29.132 16:34, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

RE: LittleKuriboh
Yes. LittleKuriboh was the 8th Most suscribed person of all time with 40,000 subscribers, (although Youtube never recognized him as such)and deserves to be mentioned on the Youtube article.
 * Though now LittleKuriboh has been deleted from YouTube completely thanks to all of the users constantly flagging his videos for using a Japanese cartoon for footage. I added LittleKuriboh to the List of YouTube celebrities Zanders5k. 22:53, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Phishing?
As a frequent "YouTuber", I've noticed that several comments are appearing, as a form of spam email, using randomly generated usernames (This even happened to a video of mine, which it was quickly marked as spam)

Is it worthy of a mention in the article? -- undefined Neo   2.3   Hylan  09:04, 30 August 2007 (UTC) undefined Neo   2.3   Hylan  08:48, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
 * OK, I've just received 2 (two) messages from randomly generated usernames, which are clearly spam. I'm adding the phishing section in, feel free to change it around; I don't often make this big a change to an article.

Areas with YouTube Blocked
According to www.thegreatfirewallofchina.com, China has blocked YouTube. This website is also blocked so there is a small chance anyone from there can report this officially. outside link: net movie theater just tried going to thegreatfirewallofchina.com and it did't work.--Olavid 05:15, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Delutube
I have noticed a link to Delutube, Deleted YouTube Video Viewer, a site suggesting they can display deleted or flagged YouTube videos. Skeptical that it is real and suspicious it's nothing more than a hoax, I have tried it probably 20 times over the last few months, but have never had any success--some random video shows up instead. Has anyone ever had this work at all? (Anybody popping in to say, "yes" who has zero Wikipedia editing history will be suspect as trying to perpetuate this apparently bogus website). If there is no confirmation from anyone it actually works, I think the section on it ought to be deleted. Plus, isn't it against YouTube's policy to offer access to deleted videos? WorthWatching 19:55, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
 * i agree with you. Take it out of the article, i tried it so many times and it don't work! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deananoby2 (talk • contribs) 22:06, August 26, 2007 (UTC)

it worked for me ONCE. it usually fails, and one time, it tried to give me errorsafe! 72.73.220.198 17:48, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Censored in Thailand?
When I load youtube.com onto my address bar here in Bangkok, this message comes up: Sorry, the web site you are accessing has been closed by Royal Thai Police due to inappropriateness such as pornography, gambling or contain any information which is deemed to violate national security. For more information, please contact "Police Information System Center" Bld#19 2nd Flr, Royal Thai Police, Rama I, Patumwan, Bangkok 10330 Tel. 0-2251-0164, email : webmaster@police.go.th http://www.police.go.th
 * That's because Thailand doesn't have freedom of speech like the United States. Which is why nearly all the top Internet companies are headquartered here in Silicon Valley.  See Pruneyard Shopping Center for an example of the breadth of free speech in California. --Coolcaesar 19:23, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
 * thailand unblocked youtube, now they just block some videos--Olavid 00:34, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Clarity

 * "[...] registered users are permitted to upload an unlimited number of videos if they are under 18."

Is it if the users are under 18 or if the videos are rated safe for viewers under 18? ~ 24.37.160.221 :-: 21:18, 3 September 2007 (UTC) ~ undefined Neo   2.3   Hylan  15:19, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm thinking the former. Most people would register themselves as over 18 anyway; I was 16 myself when I registered, even though my profile states I'm 20. >_>

A little info on YouTube
The time limit is anything under 11 minutes. Here's a video I made that's 10:59 minutes long http://youtube.com/watch?v=rhV4L3T3BMc. The audio on the flv files is 22,000hz 64kbps ABR or VBR but 32,000 - 44,000hz 64kbps CBR seems to process the fastest. Bitrate is from 190 - 256 but there is still some clarity to be gained submitting 256 - 512 bitrate videos especially for those with a lot of movement. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JimmyRuska (talk • contribs) 00:15, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

"Black September"
Ive heard that on "Black September" youtube blocks random accounts for no reason. Is this true? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.144.120.235 (talk) 22:30, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Its september now, it seems unbeleiable but some sites do it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.153.204.116 (talk) 21:46, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Example Videos (Nothing to Do With Anything Bad)
 Click to watch "Kitty Said What? Morphing Kitties" at You Tube. This is an example of a silly video. Click to watch "The Most Stupid Deaths in Mario 64" (Contains mild language.)  This is an example of a reference video to Mario 64. Enjoy! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hschweinlin (talk • contribs) 20:13, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Lots of downtime
Recently (last two weeks?) Youtube has been unreachable for me very often, as it has been now for about half an hour. I'm from the Netherlands but do North-American users experience the same? I just get a blank page instead of the page I am requesting. This might indicate that they are having technical or more probably bandwidth problems, and if this trend continues and other sources start reporting about it I think it is worth a note in the article. CheesePlease NL 16:57, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I just tested this with a North-American open proxy, and through the proxy I can still enter the website. Strange stuff! Maybe they are favoring some countries over others in times of heavy traffic? CheesePlease NL 17:02, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Uploading
When i was trying to upload a video thats 9 minutes long, it worked, and when i trie to upload a movie above 10 mins, they said i couldn't. But i saw videos that were longer than 10 minutes posted on youtube before. So how do i upload it?
 * I am curious as well, but this is not the appropriate forum for that question. This page is for discussing the YouTube article on Wikipedia.  You may be interested in the Reference desk. — M ETS 501 (talk) 00:20, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * you need to have a director account to upload videos longer than 10 minutes. i think musician accounts also have this ability. i am not sure about gurus and comedians, though... 72.73.220.198 17:53, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
 * It seems Google has changed this policy —71.113.94.122 18:39, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Prince is going to sue YouTube and eBay
Should this be added? It's because people put his videos on the site. MalwareSmarts 14:12, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
 * We could... Use this as a source --  M  (speak/spoken) 19:15, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Use of Infobox Website
Is the Infobox Company proper, rather than Infobox Website is? I want to use Infobox Website, as the example of Yahoo! Video. So, maybe we must separate to express the website of YouTube and the company of YouTube, LLC Give me advices! Lotus L-12 6:25, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I made a similar proposal on October-November 2006 (Talk:YouTube/Archive 2). I added two infoboxes: Infobox Website and Infobox Company because there is only one article about the two entities (the website and the company). Mets501 didn't like having 2 infoboxes so he reverted my edit (see history). So I don't say he was wrong, but eventually I think neither infobox suit. We should create a specific infobox (like Infobox Dotcom company) for those kind of companies (except if they are sufficiently famous to have two separate articles (like Google and its main website: Google (search engine)). This new template would be a blend of the 2 infoboxes and could be applied to a lot of companies (probably many of those categorized in Category:Internet companies). 16@r 17:13, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

i like the talk page —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.83.1.2 (talk) 09:38, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

help
i am an active youtube user, but i need help. does anyone know how to change your birthdate on youtube after you create your account? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yahussain (talk • contribs) 02:31, August 25, 2007 (UTC)
 * Are you over or under 13? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.192.94.145 (talk) 02:40, August 30, 2007 (UTC)
 * No. There is no possible way. You must make a new account--BrianAndBrian 00:40, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Copyright case
Viacom has demanded that YouTube remove a video that it claims to own even though it may itself have infringed on the original copyright. The video was originally posted online by Christopher Knight, a former candidate for a seat on the Rockingham County, NC board of education. In it he poses as a kind of Star Wars warrior vowing to protect local education from the federal bureaucracy. Soon afterwards, the video appeared on YouTube and then on VH1's Web Junk 2.0 -- without permission from Knight. Nevertheless, Knight said that when the clip appeared, he was "delighted" to be recognized by the cable channel and made a copy of the segment and posted it onto YouTube. He soon received a message from YouTube saying that Viacom had demanded that the clip be withdrawn and that if Knight continued to violate copyrights, his account would be shut off. In an interview with the U.K. tech site The Register, Knight said, "Viacom says that I can't use their clip showing my commercial, claiming copy infringement? ... As we say in the South, that's ass-backwards." should be added to the case section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.26.100.14 (talk) 02:34, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

This was never official, but special previews of the 'Eragon' movie were shown before it actually opened (showing animation of the dragons etc.). Some people took videos at these previews either with cameraphones or digital cameras and uploaded them to YouTube. They were up for a while, but I heard that the film company made them remove them. If somebody could confirm this, it could also be added. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.3.1.2 (talk) 00:45, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

A question
This is just a question from someone who is not a member of You Tube, but out of interest, is it possible for the uploader to edit the description of a video after he has uploaded it? I know this isn't the right place to ask, but I hope someone can give me a brief answer. :) --78.16.61.132 16:02, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes this is possible. While watching the video under your name in the description box, you can click "Edit Video".--BrianAndBrian 00:33, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Linking to Youtube on Wikipedia
There are quite a few videos related to Wikipedia articles. Many of the videos violate the copyright.

Referring to this in this articles: "Content owners are not just targeting YouTube for copyright infringements, but are also targeting third party websites that link to infringing content on YouTube and other video-sharing sites. For example QuickSilverScreen vs. Fox[28] Daily Episodes vs. Fox[29] and Columbia vs. Slashfilm.[30] The liability of linking remains a grey area with cases for and against. The law in the U.S. currently leans towards website owners being liable for infringing links[31] although they are often protected by the DMCA providing they take down infringing content when issued with a takedown notice. However, a recent court ruling in the U.S. found Google not liable for linking to infringing content (Perfect 10 v. Google, Inc.)."

How should linking to YouTube be handled? Technically, we are not uploading video to Wikipedia's server. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fsuarez2005 (talk • contribs) 02:51, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Down
Is the site Down? Because on my Computer it dosent show it just says Your browser sent a request that this server could not understand. Size of a request header field exceeds server limit. This never happened on my computer before. Is this happening to any one else? -
 * Yea this happened to me... YouTube isn't down. Just close and re-open Mozilla Firefox or IE. --BrianAndBrian 00:29, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

fave limit
someone on this talk page a while bcki think was talking about there being a limit of around 300 favorites. but i have come accross someone with 600 faves. 202.156.11.1 04:39, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
 * the limit is 500 -unknown

I wonder what the subscription limit is. Tyciol 08:10, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
 * well i know its more then 10,000

YouTube Partnership Program
I propose the YouTube Partnership Program article (which is in a poor, unsourced state) be merged and redirected to the appropriate section here. Objections? Rockpock e  t  22:06, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't object, but be careful what you merge. The entire article seems to be a copyright violation.  See here:  .  Ichormosquito 04:47, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Spam marking
One of the new features of the rating system for comments is (or maybe it existed before and I didn't notice?) marking comments as spam. This is being heavily abused, with people clicking 'spam' on every single comment on a person's video so it looks like they have no comments. It makes interaction very difficult. Tyciol 08:11, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

antiCRAP
been seeing alot of antizionism, racism, antisemitism, antifeminism, etc. lately on youtube...wonder why no one is talking about it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.96.47.130 (talk) 05:23, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello, this is from a former youtube user, YES there's been a lot of crap flying around youtube recently, the prroblem is, is that youtube's just too lazy to care about it! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.168.66.199 (talk) 19:23, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Citation Needed for Spamming on YouTube?
Why is there a citation needed tag on the section that briefly explains the growing problem of spam on YouTube.com? Just go to any random video on there and you will find your proof. All this spamming, which has been climbing at an exponential rate on YouTube, is one of the largest blows to the website. I think it is just absurd to require a citation needed tag for something that is a known fact for anyone that visits YouTube.com on a regular basis. 70.121.162.197 13:08, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes, spam has been a huge problem lately... http://img161.imageshack.us/my.php?image=unknown283se2.gif TanookiMario257 04:36, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

THat's why I hate youtube! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.168.66.199 (talk) 19:49, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Comment Spam
I find it amazing that no one has addressed the issue of comment spam on YouTube as of late. Any thoughts? Linns 03:41, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

I agree. There are users out there who love to spam people's profiles just for the hell of it. Here's a screenshot I took a while ago: http://img161.imageshack.us/my.php?image=unknown283se2.gif TanookiMario257 04:36, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

I added some information about spam under the Spamming section:

"At one point, it was possible to flood people's profiles with thousands of comments per minute by repeatedly clicking the "Submit Comment" button; however, YouTube patched this problem by implementing a flood control system. The same used to be possible when posting bulletins to friends. Nevertheless, it is still possible to rapidly spam groups and group invites.

These types of spammers almost always get their accounts suspended by YouTube; however, they always create new accounts and spam people again. YouTube has not banned these spammers' IP addresses, allowing them to repeatedly create new accounts at will."

If anybody has an objection to it, then feel free to get rid of it, but I feel it's important to mention. TanookiMario257 05:23, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Downloading
I haven't been able to download youtube videos for the last few days. did youtube blocked the firefox applications somehow? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.235.65.64 (talk) 08:43, 3 September 2007 (UTC) undefined Neo   2.3   Hylan  10:41, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I think the VideoDownloader plugin's broken. I read somewhere that the .flv files that YouTube uses get saved into the Temporary Internet Files folder on your computer, though I'm not too sure about it myself.
 * Uhh yeah... VideoDownloader doesn't work anymore. But there are like tons of programs on download.com that still work.--BrianAndBrian 00:36, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

I use Unplug andclick on the first link. That works for me —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.215.71.69 (talk) 09:02, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

I use vixy.net 24.223.130.193 23:41, 8 October 2007 (UTC)anonymous

Hacking?
Hacking has been a major problem on the site in the past few weeks, especially the past few days. Should there be any mention of this in the article? TanookiMario257 19:08, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Technical Note
from the "video format section" =
 * "It has pixel dimensions of 320 by 240 and a uses 25 frames per second"

Should this say "30 frames per second", since Youtube, being an American company, follows the NTSC standard? Youtube's own help documentation recommends 30 frames per second. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)
 * Recommendations notwithstanding, I don't think I've ever actually seen more than half that when I try to play them....Gargomon251 00:56, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

criticism
there has been a lot of criticism lately on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m2oAeIAlpo&watch_response

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58TcrvkxU8g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IkCHVAD0-8 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.106.230.196 (talk) 05:18, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Plz Fix This Guys
Ok, I just uploaded a picture of the YouTube upload video screen. Its WAY too big. Can sum1 plz size it down 4 me? Flaminglawyer 02:05, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I can fix it but do we need another screenshot for the article? -- Esa nchez (Talk 2 me or Sign here) 02:08, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

youtube beta's release
needs a section, or an update. i cannot go back to the better format. although, first it must be posted in a scholarly place so that is is not original research... :ds: 72.73.200.100 02:03, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Outdated picture
The picture on the article seems to be outdated to the currently YouTube page, now it has a "Videos beeing watched right now..." and the video that always gets changed, in the right upper corner isn't either on the picture --Kanonkas 18:50, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

YouTube Poop
How come there's no information about YTP here? I think it's a rather large portion of the site and the only mention of it is a brief blurb on the CD-i pages. I think there should be a brief explanation of what it's all about at least. Gargomon251 10:52, 31 August 2007 (UTC) undefined Neo   2.3   Hylan  16:11, 31 August 2007 (UTC) undefined N  a  N  12:21, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Make an article about YTP itself?
 * It might not last long, unfortunately. For now a section will do, if it needs to be expanded into an article we can do that. Hope it doesn't get removed --  M  (speak/spoken) 22:46, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Youtube Poop isn't funny to me... And it's not really creative. Just shove a bunch of clips you download off of Limewire with windows movie maker. Youtube Poop uses copyrighted material such as Super Mario Bros. (TV series) and The Legend of Zelda (TV series). Like the second reply, I don't think the article will last so long...--BrianAndBrian 00:40, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Redubs,Over9000s,YTPs and other "crappy" vids make up alot of the Yt Community. I can't do a search without YTP popping up, ytp also has very different views, i for one love ytp and are quite a fan. - 127.0.0.1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.238.64.200 (talk) 03:52, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll be making a sandbox page in my Userspace for YouTube Poop - if that's the term - and if the article seems good enough, could that be an actual article here?

Spam
There has been a lot of spam recently on YouTube. They are usually things like "Visit pervertcamz.prv for hot videos! -Pervert27" or "Click my name to get a link to a dirty video that would probably give you spyware." They are on almost every video (Can you believe they dared to spam This? (Don't click if you wear your heart on your sleeve) I can't believe they would spam that just to advertise porn.) And YouTube isn't doing anything about it. MalwareSmarts 20:34, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

The only thing that YouTube does about is ban each individual account, which is not enough. YouTube should IP ban these spammers, especially those that send out 100+ group invites/minute or people that have been doing it for many months. TanookiMario257 02:25, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Ten Minute Limit
Remove the part that says users can apply to upload longer videos. It is out of date and will only give users false hope. 68.175.106.168 04:41, 17 October 2007 (UTC) undefined N  a  N  16:20, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I always thought the Ten-Minute-Limit (I'm referring to it as the 10ML) was redundant when it started anyway; I had seen ones over 10:00 in the past; Someone uploaded AMV Hell 3 - which is well over 60 minutes long - while the 10ML was still in effect. If it's still there, I'll remove that piece of the section, but as far as I'm aware, the 100MB limit still stands. Any objections, revert and let me know.

Youtube grandfathers in older users and they are still permitted to upload long videos. However, newer users like myself cannot. Youtube is currently not offering a way to upload longer videos for new users. 68.175.106.168 01:39, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Youtube users who have been using it for longer do not have a 10ML. The most recent users have been able to pass up the 10ML. I joined in august, and I'm able to send videos longer than 10 minutes. 12:03, october 28, 2007, RMSfootball64 —Preceding unsigned comment added by RMSfootball64 (talk • contribs) 17:02, 28 October 2007 (UTC) Can you confirm that? What is your Youtube username? I'm pretty sure the limit is still in place, but I haven't tried to upload a long video yet. If that is true, put it in the article.68.175.106.168 18:18, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

racism
shouldent the racism on youtube be mentioned, there is a strong anti asian attitude in some users(anti japanese in particular)ever since someone invented the dolphin torture vidio witch is probably fake, —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.201.62.36 (talk) 17:54, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * If you can give some reliable sources for this it would be a useful addition. Thanks, SqueakBox 18:01, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Size limit
Youtube has increased the file size from 100mb to 1000mb-- Blue-Eyes  Gold Dragon   08:22, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Inapropriete?
Youtube has been said too be very inapropriete. Suddenly from Nice Broadcasting place it has turned into threating Posts, Swear words, animal Abuse, And Real Faces. It has been scary watching those bad comments float by, and our Children watching. Although Good songs and TV shows on youtube it has been said by many fellow mothers and fathers around the world youtube is sinking. Youtube has been apropriete for children, house pets, and some parents. From Popular too Inapropriete.
 * Which is why it is becoming just as important to emphasise parent controls over what children watch on YouTube. It is not possible to control the actions of inappropriateness, only the means of which inappropriate behaviour is seen. (Terra Xin (talk) 04:32, 18 November 2007 (UTC))

Even with parental controls, appropriate videos can have inappropriate comments in them. I commented on a video about ITV and a user responded by saying I should have a brick thrown at me for no reason. You could always block them, i suppose.Betamax52 (talk)betamax52 —Preceding comment was added at 20:19, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

What is the best video on youtube, and who was it created by?
I love youtube, but I rufuse to be a critic, please wright what you think —Preceding unsigned comment added by RMSfootball64 (talk • contribs) 16:56, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

there is no "best" video on youtube. what is "best" to one person might not be "best" to others. it all depends on the viewer. since i do not know what you like, i cannot say what the "best" video is in your terms, :ds: 71.251.129.234 00:53, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Vaguely agreeing with the comment above, I try to objectively think of a 'best' video. I have come to the conclusion of Ok Go's 'A Million Ways', this is because it became the most watched internet video of all time. In the process overtaking the current leader of Pamela Anderson's ..., therefore making the internet a cleaner place. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.63.48.253 (talk) 02:51, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

I agree with the user above you. It's really all about the opinions people have. I personally think that video wasn't that great, but that's my opinion. Darkdemon90 13:56, 22 November 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Darkdemon90 (talk • contribs)

And I agree that WIkipedia is not a forum. Thank you. Calgary (talk) 17:41, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

So if you have a good reference for this please bring it here but we are not interested in the opinions of editors on this one. Thanks, SqueakBox 17:43, 25 November 2007 (UTC)