Talk:Young Guard (Soviet resistance)

Soviet propaganda dominates
Several books, articles and TV documentaries (Soviet, Ukrainian and Russian) question the official version hardly. They should be referenced and mentioned in the text. Can't recall those sources right now, but the history fans must.

Also, the grammar and style of the page is poor (even for me). Added clean-up tag. Ukrained 20:25, 7 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Writing the article, I cited my sources in the "External links" section. The main of them is the first link, which points to the frequently updated website. The website is not "official", and it is not Soviet, because it was created in the early 2000s and is maintained by enthusiasts, who place quotes from archive documents there. So, please, say concretely, what is POV, why and cite your sources. Cmapm 03:16, 20 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi. First of all, my exact objections to your article were marked by respective tags. You removed them which I don't object since I haven't cited my sources (unfortunately, it is only TV documentary for now). I haven't seen that site you use, but note that is a purely amateur and anonymous resource judging by its URL. Hope to come back with my references soon. Looking forward to further cooperation with you over this article. Ukrained 22:32, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Please check edit(s) by 202.182.131.21
This user adds vandalism, then removes it, but sometimes leaves bits and pieces. Currently, they have changed: Most members of the Young Guard, about 80 people, were executed by the Germans after tortures.

to: Most members of the Young Guard, about 100 people, were executed by the Germans after tortures.

I'm not sure whether or not this is true, so could someone please change it back if it needs changing? - James Foster 09:12, 13 February 2006 (UTC)


 * There were 100 people, but about 80 were executed. I changed it back. Cmapm 03:08, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Molodaya Gvardia
The term seems to be a cultural reference to something earlier in Soviet history. There was a communist youth magazine "Molodaya Gvardia" being published in the 1920s. DonPMitchell (talk) 20:55, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * http://sovietposter.blogspot.com/2007_08_21_archive.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by DonPMitchell (talk • contribs) 20:59, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Words like "treachery"
Words like "treachery" indicate this article is not written from a neutral point of view. Yours, BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 20:06, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Traitor, treachery are exact words and this fact is established. I am inclined to remove the rest of your tag bombing penging specific reasons indicated. Being beenaroundforawhile you shouldhaveknownbetter that while you have a right for your opinion, there is to specific target for discussion barring reading your mind and hence unclear whzt to improve. - Altenmann >talk 10:34, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
 * P.S. I agree the article sucks, but this is with most wikipedia stubs where nobody of current wikipedemographics cares.- Altenmann >talk 10:40, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

Removing some tags
There were four tags here, and I removed the POV and TONE tags. I don't see anything wrong with the tone, seems to fit in with typical article writing. As to POV, we need to know more what the problem is. There is an "on the other hand" controversy section, so "both sides" are addressed to some degree already. Tags left in place is that there's a Russian article that could be used to expand this one, and that there're no footnotes but just refs for the entire article. Herostratus (talk) 01:19, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

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