Talk:Yours Truly (Ariana Grande album)

Sources needed
If it isn't backed up by a reliable source, it shouldn't be in the article. That includes the album title, release date, singles, and track list. —C.Fred (talk) 14:38, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

Track Listing
Ariana has confirmed on her twitter page that none of the track list that are on the internet are real, she revealing the track list song by song. This makes all sources for "Direct Contact (Feat. Demi Lovato)", and "Supervised (Feat. Justin Bieber)" fake. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arianator2013 (talk • contribs) 16:31, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Khris Riddick Tynes should be added as a writer on the track "Lovin it" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Epep123 (talk • contribs) 02:08, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Popular should be listed as a single.
Why isn't it listed as a single? I know its not really her song but MIKA's but look at will.I.Am's Check It Out (song) it was listed as a single for Nicki Minaj's album Pink Friday.
 * No. This isn't a single from Yours Truly. Ar  re  04:21, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Plus, "Check It Out" was never a single from Pink Friday IPadPerson (talk) 12:45, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

Low Quality Source
The opinions of the "Daily Revile" hardly seem worthy of inclusion. In fact, the very fact that the critic mentions The Emancipation of Mimi as being Mariah Carey's glory days seems to indicate the quality of the criticism to be obtained from that publication. On closer investigation it appears the critic was actually born in 1992, and so likely missed the glory days while being a toddler. Regardless, I sense some shameless self promotion at work here. Should be deleted, though I shall leave that to a more seasoned article editor... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.155.86.51 (talk) 23:57, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

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Genres
The documentation for the album infobox requires that the genre listed should "be stated and referenced in the body of the article." The pop genre, as of the time I reverted its addition, was sourced but was not clearly stated in the article body; specifically, it did not match with the genres listed in the article's composition section. If you are going to add the genre to the infobox, please add the corresponding information to the article body's composition section; the burden on doing so rests with the editor adding the information. Otherwise, the editor shouldn't be surprised if their changes are removed for not meeting the requirements noted in the template documentation. Aoi (青い) (talk) 20:20, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

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Doo-wop as a genre
There appears to be some back-and-forth about whether to include doo-wop as one of the main genres of the album. I see sources saying there are doo-wop influences but not directly that the music is doo-wop. What are other editors seeing, either for or against adding this genre? —C.Fred (talk) 16:19, 20 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Pitchfork: "as is instantly clear when Hollywood strings and doo-wop vocals kick off the 1950s-styled “Honeymoon Avenue", the first song from her debut album [...] opting for a 90s hip-hop soul vibe that awkwardly sits with the more doo-wop-indebted songwriting"
 * Billboard: "Grande digs into doo-wop on “Tattooed Heart,” which carries a bouncing piano line and finger snaps that eventually morph into a patient rhythm"
 * PopMatters: "Erratic programmed drums support the rich harmonies and piano chords of the more doo-wop songs and the R&B tracks are infused with a wide-eyed optimism more associated with the ‘60s pop style [...] Wisely, the young Grande refuses to use R&B as code for sexuality. Instead, all the songs have the same playful flirtation and insinuation found in her doo-wop and Motown influences"
 * My impression is that the sources consider doo-wop to be representative of some songs and not the whole album, and that Ariana Grande was inspired by that genre, but that she hasn't made a doo-wop album anyway. Blueberry72 (talk) 18:04, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

Release date
The release date provided by iTunes (August 30) seems to conflict with the secondary independent sources I found:
 * Breeanna Hare, Ariana Grande finds own ‘Way’ to No. 1, CNN, 9/13/2013: Her debut album, “Yours Truly,” arrived on September 3 and went straight to the top of the Billboard 200 chart.
 * Three sources from Billboard:
 * Jason Lipshutz, Ariana Grande, 'Yours Truly': Track-By-Track Review, Billboard, 9/4/2013: Release Date: Sept. 3
 * Jason Lipshutz, Ariana Grande, ‘Yours Truly’: Fall Music Preview 2013, Billboard, 9/3/2013: Release Date: Sept. 3
 * Jason Lipshutz, Ariana Grande Unveils ‘Yours Truly’ Artwork, Confirms Release Date, Billboard, 7/31/2013: Fortunately, “Yours Truly” now has a set-in-stone release date — September 3 — as well as official album artwork, which Grande shared with her 7.9 million Twitter followers on Wednesday (July 31).

Also, I took a look at the Web Archive's snapshot Ariana Grande's website. The only snapshot from August 2013 includes text that indicates her album would be "in stores 9.3.13." A snapshot of her [http://web.archive.org/web/20130826153317/http://www.myplaydirect.com:80/ariana-grande music store indicates that digital orders of her album would be "available on September 3, 2013". Finally, a snapshot of Grande's twitter account from September 3, 2013 includes a number of tweets that indicate that her album dropped on that date.

In short, I think even disregarding the archived links, the press coverage from around the time of her release seems to indicate that iTunes has the date wrong. I do think that this recent edit putting in a corrected date has some formatting problems, so I'll be fixing the edit and replacing the source from the news blog with the CNN article and one of the Billboard articles. Aoi (青い) (talk) 02:40, 7 October 2022 (UTC) Aoi (青い) (talk) 02:45, 10 October 2022 (UTC)