Talk:Youth Hostels Association

Cleanup
Cleanup tag added partly because of the POV and promotional tone, and partly because this article should be about the YHA (England & Wales) and currently has a lot of irrelevant information about other associations. These other YHAs should either be given their own articles (as the SYHA does), or, if there isn't enough info to merit separate articles, be merged into Hostelling International. -- Blisco 12:23, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

It seems as if this page is trying to go in about five different directions: the charitable nature of YHA (which isn't really relevant to its function as a hostelling organisation, the types of people who might one day stay at a hostel, the kind of activities... not a whole lot about what someone might be looking for if they search YHA. Having worked on some Wiki-like documentation for Japan and Australia's hostel networks, I'm going to take a stab at this one over the next few days. Travellingcari 00:08, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

OK, I have thought about this as promised. I re-drafted a few ideas but ultimately I have to agree with Orderinchaos below. I think I'll be focusing elsewhere given the consensus cited back in January.Travellingcari 19:50, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

This page is a real mess. It seems to be trying to be both about youth hostels in general which have their own article and about YHA(England & Wales). As suggested elsewhere it ought to be just the latter and include a renaming in that. Nthep (talk) 22:52, 10 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I agree, I was adding a few details to this page but I see you've already started on User:Nthep/Youth Hostels Association (England & Wales. All the history there is looking good. It would be great to see that information moving in to this article. I guess YHA (England and Wales) is a good title if we want to rename this page (this is the name as used on the Annual Reports).
 * It might also be useful to create stubs for the Australian and New Zealand associations so that we can separate off any relevant details to those pages, and identify them on the YHA disambiguation page. I suggest Youth Hostel Association of New Zealand and maybe YHA Australia (what is its official name?) as page titles. --David Edgar (talk) 16:56, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'm just looking for some source material for the 50s - 70s to add.Nthep (talk) 17:01, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Because this page doesn't seem to be sure about what it's for (see Travellingcari comments above) I've created a new page solely for YHA(E&W).  I suggest this page be edited top cover associations other than E&W that use YHA e.g. Australia and New Zealand or if it's about hostelling in general it be merged with Hostelling InternationalNthep (talk) 13:28, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I think we should merge its content with Hostelling International, which can link to the national groups. We already have at YHA a disambiguation page which can link to pages for the various national organisations which use this name. Eventually a category such as Category:Hostelling International member associations could also contain the pages for each national organisation.
 * I'd try to avoid putting information about the other YHAs on one page, because they're all distinct associations, even if they have similar names and goals.--David Edgar (talk) 11:52, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
 * My poor explanation, I meant to say leave this page as a disambiguation to the other associations but as you say there is a YHA disambiguation page which can serve that purpose. NtheP (talk) 12:16, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

As discussed elsewhere on this page all the information on this page is repeated elsewhere i.e Hostelling International, YHA(E&W) and Youth Hostel. This page is therefore surperfluous and adds nothing to Wikipedia. NtheP (talk) 17:31, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Merger from YHA England & Wales
The source page is almost wholly limited to a list of English and Welsh YHAs. If the content of YHA is to be restricted to the YHA (England & Wales), as suggested in the Cleanup section, then there is no need for two aricles.--ARAJ 17:13, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree and would have suggested it myself it I had known how Davidahearn 17:46, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

The merger is now underway. The source page is currently transcluded into YHA. I now propose to improve the linkage of the source page, discussion of which is transcluded below.--ARAJ 16:54, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Talk:YHA England & Wales
This article is now transcluded within YHA. My intention is to create links to another article where the Youth Hostel is mentioned, as is the case with YHA Edale at the moment. I do not intend to add references to Youth Hostels where no reference currently exists, but others may wish to do so.

At this time, the view on Talk:YHA is that YHA should be the location of information about YHA England & Wales. If this view is sustained, this article can be substituted at any time. In the mean time, please do not add anything to this page except the names of current or former Youth Hostels in England or Wales. Thank you.--ARAJ 16:42, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

YHA Australia/NZ
Having an article titled "YHA" means we should really cover the activities of these two rather large organisations. I would actually propose the article be transformed into a redirect to Hostelling International, with a new section being created on that article, but in the absence of such a move, this article should be made more inclusive. Orderinchaos 23:16, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Expansion, categories etc
It srikes me that the YHA is represented less than other organisations of a similar size. I stumbled upon this article looking for historical information on a particular youth hostel. I feel it would be appropriate for some of the larger and historical Youth Hostels (eg Coalport, Ilam) to actually have their own pages. They are certainly as historically significant as some other manor houses etc that have their own pages. Coalport, for example, is the oldest remaining building from the Ironbridge china works. Fork me 11:15, 8 May 2007 (UTC)