Talk:Youth With You season 2

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Questions of Reliability and Impartiality
Parts of this article speak more like an overt advertisement for the show rather than an impartial Wikipedia article, especially within the "Form" section.

I believe the author meant "Format", not "Form" (Example)? A stronger suggestion would be to name it "Overview" instead "Form"/"Format" as it encapsulates various unrelated subsections: positioning, background, scheme, etc.

The style of language and language content are very questionable and raises concerns about content NPOV: Impartial tone, Descriptions of aesthetic opinions and reputations, Bias in sources.

The series "captur[ing] the pulse of contemporary pop culture" is an assertion/opinion (Impartial tone). The same can be said about it "giving [contemporary pop culture] positive value of meaning, a youthful attitude..." and almost every other statement made in this post.

More (uncited) assertions (Impartial tone).

Better but still uses questionable language for a Wikipedia article (Impartial tone).

"sing and dance well" (Descriptions of aesthetic opinions and reputations)?

Same sort of assertions, now sharing a single citation ([3]) (Impartial tone; Bias in sources).

Edit of the first sentence as an example of what this should sound more like (if the content is even considered suitable for Wikipedia): "The show presents the "Concept X" for the infinite possibilities it provides to its participants".

Similar concerns exist within the Episodes section. The descriptions of each episode read more like narrative-style, fan-written original content, offering no citations to either official or unbiased synopses (otherwise passable in the correct situation).

If I had to place my bets, someone associated with the show wrote this article.

Major revisions must made.

Coldery (talk) 01:29, 17 December 2020 (UTC)


 * I agree with nearly everything said, although I don't think that we could conclude that someone associated with the show wrote the article. (I don't consider a fan to be "someone associated with the show". Rather, I consider that term to only apply to people who have worked on the show, e.g. production crew, P.R., agents, employees of iQiYi, etc.)
 * I believe a combination of the following issues has resulted in the article being in the state that it currently is in.
 * Whoever wrote the text is probably not a native speaker of English, as evidenced by the example of using "Form" instead of "Format" or "Overview". In addition, the inconsistent use of tense is also a common indication of English written by someone whose native language is Chinese, because Chinese does not have any verb conjugations. A hallmark difference between Chinese and European languages is that once a timeframe (i.e. tense) has been established, typically in the first sentence, all subsequent sentences in an entire conversation are constructed using simple forms that lack verb endings or other tense qualifiers. This often plays havoc with computer translation systems, such as Google Translate, since they have trouble determining how far "down the line" a timeframe-establishing sentence should be applied to.
 * Portions of the text are likely directly translated from a previous revision of the Chinese version of the article (see previous bullet point).
 * Portions of the text in the introductory sections (such as the "Background" section) are likely to have been taken directly from the show's various promotional materials.
 * The Chinese language makes heavy use of figures of speech such as metaphors, idioms (chengyu), etc., which may sound somewhat impartial if you see it in Chinese, but when translated to other languages, would sound extremely flowery. All of the examples cited sound like they were taken from show/episode recaps that were posted by fans onto Weibo, Douban, or Baidu Tieba, translated into English using a service such as Google Translate, and then copy-pasted into the article.
 * I am going to tag the article with the issues that have been pointed out; I agree that major revisions need to be made. If you believe there are additional issues with the article that also need to be flagged, please feel free to add them to the Multiple issues template. CopyeditMan (talk) 20:19, 12 July 2024 (UTC)