Talk:Youth culture

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Not that much info
The only thing i see is music. I really dont think that music is the only thing that has defined youth culture. Sure it has a good standing in the definition but what about other things like technology, romance/sex and the media? (Besides MTV.) --24.76.121.173 01:26, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

==Needs work== This article needs more work. I added a summary of the history of youth culture, but it needs some more detail. Is the prevailing theory that public schools contributed to the rise of youth culture? Or leisure time? Or just middle class affluence?

And there are substantial problems with the contemporary descriptions. Is MTV really a trendsetter? I venture to guess that young celebrities in general are setting the trends, only a subset of which show up on MTV. Are there really seven youth subcultures in the US where metrosexuality and androgyny are fashionable? There is currently a section called "Trends" and another called "Cultures & Trends". There is no mention of hip hop cultureblahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
 * I don't believe the U.S. section presents the major modern youth cultures, much less the important historically ones. The bold statements on metrosexual and gender constructs need sources. Rmhermen 15:50, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

This article is almost total rubbish. The point of this article should not be to arrive at a list of ostensibly distinct youth cultures but to describe the history of youth culture in particular national and historical contexts. Surely the contributing factors to the rise of youth culture are varied and include all those indicated as well as--for the U.S. at least--the advent of the automobile, the rise of consumerism and individualism, and urbanism. I'm not a wikipedia expert, but I will help out to fix this article. Is there another article that is considered "well-done" that might inspire a structure for this one? Bjd773 05:31, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

I know this is to be expected, but this article sounds like a teenager wrote it. It's junk.

Here is an academic paper on the history of marketing to youth in the U.S.: http://www.kingston.ac.uk/cusp/Lectures/Brailsfordpaper.doc

I think this article fails because there is no clear idea of what actually constitutes "culture". Surely there must be more to culture than television and music. Those are simply forms of entertainment. What ideas and issues captured the minds and imaginations of youth? What news events shaped the way young people viewed the world around them? Were there shifts in common behaviours and attitudes? Did the relationship between youth and the older generations change? These ideas need to be addressed.

I think this article should be separated by both time period, and by country/part of the world. For example, "Late 1980s Youth Culture in the United Kingdom," "Early 1990s Youth Culture in Canada," etc. For example, grunge music and its attitudes affected youth culture in the early 1990s - in Canada and the United States - however, did it in the UK (and to what extent?) Brazil? I have no idea, but it may well not have. Further, as other people have mentioned, we need to nail down what the scope of this article should be. Perhaps a look at other encyclopedias would be in order.

Making a Generalization
The article points out numerous youth subgroups, pushing the assumption that all teens belong to some sort of counterculture subgroup. The vast majority of teens do not fit these parameters.

instead of talking about the Generalization, i say we do something else. something muck more else... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jake1993811 (talk • contribs) 08:01, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Why encourage this?
I'm a 16-year-old and I think for myself. Why should people be encouraged to let others control them? Things have been pretty messed since 9/11 because the young generation is being stereotyped by the older generations now and most believe the crap. They are being controlled and because of this, society has been reverting backward since around the 70s. Why should we further encourage reactionaryism? We should move towards a utopia, which is a society where everybody thinks for themselves and governments don't exist. A world where people think clearly because they aren't being forced to murder and abuse each other by the government, the police, the schools, and just about every other group of old people. 205.166.61.142 20:41, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Unreliable and Inaccurate
I find this article to be somewhat inaccurate and the very definition of youth culture is incorrect. It is more of a definition of sub culture. Youth culture does not try and differeniate itself from thae community as youth are PART of the community. Youth culture is youth creating an identity that is differnt from that of the PARENT culture. This article is frustrating and unacademic. Its pretty much useless if were trying to use it as a reliable information source for and assignment. This site needs standard control so that crap like this doesn't mislead people who don't know the difference. I'm a 20 yr old uni student and if i were to submit this information to my lecturer i would be laughed at. 16/05/06

culture vs subculture
I agree that this page seems to be alot on subcultures rather than main culture - perhaps it should be renamed? JenLouise

Actually I'm thinking of creating a separate Youth subcultures pages and starting from scratch. Then any material on here that belongs to subcultures can be moved and this can be cleaned up to be about youth culture or deleted. JenLouise 05:58, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Youth subculture has been created. JenLouise

Article expansion
I've started a prose about youth culture by decade, with sections in the United Kingdom. focusing on music and television. I imagine the 1960s section will be huge, and many credit that time as the advent of a formalised youth culture, but as a 17 year old I feel unfit to handle it. I would advise: - discussing the rise of certain genres/movements - please ensure the scale of a genre is not misrepresented or given disproportionate amounts of attention e.g. it would be unfair to give Emocore a larger mention than Beatlmania - the relationship between music and trends e.g. the "Madchester" scene (linking music drugs & clubbing) - mention of films appropriate to the youth culture of the time e.g. the movie Grease or movies by bands like the Beatles or The Who from the 1960s, or teen movie culture in the 1990s. - fashion like clothes and makeup - drugs thanks WinstonBerni 22:03, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Media
Why it is said that we, young people love MTV, music, movies and other crap? I, personally think that all medias suck!

shit
the post war section shorter than the 90s and 2000s. The 60s was absolutely essential in youth culture. I guess a young person who likes indie/britpop music wrote this article. The OC defining 2000s culture? Lol. where is information about skaters and skateboarding — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.101.255.186 (talk) 16:16, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

nu metal?
nu metal rising in popularty bullshit it dead a long time and the oc thg who the fuck wrote this —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.29.3.172 (talk) 15:18, 30 March 2007 (UTC).

Dire Need Of Depth
This article is in serious need of more depth. The information is lacking and somewhat insulting to the broad topic of the article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 172.146.219.233 (talk) 12:18, 22 April 2007 (UTC).

you can say the f word on here? Jake1993811 (talk) 08:03, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

inaccurate
this article needs to be deleted NOW. it is irrelevant, bias, and idiotic. there is no "youth culture", we are all HUMANS. i will spend my life to eradicate all negative thoughts of youth. anyone who wishes to join me, feel free. thank you, Jake1993811 (talk) 07:50, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

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Draft:American youth culture and identity
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