Talk:Yugoslav Second League

Doubts
I´m not sure if this list is worth translating and including in the article:

Вечна табела клубова Друге савезне лиге Југославије (Не укључује сезоне 1946/47, 1952., 1952/53 и зонске лиге 1955/56 - 1957/58., али укључује и сезону 1991/92.)

Првих 40 клубова на вечној табели Друге савезне лиге СФРЈ, ако желите да видите клубове који су рангирани ниже погледајте овде: http://www.rsssf.com/tablesj/joeg2alltime.html#yug/

Реп. = Из које је тренутно државе; ИГ = Играо утакмица; Д = Добио; Н = Нерешено; И = Изгубио; ГД = Голова дао; ГП = Голова примио; ГР = Гол разлика

* Означава клубове који су одиграли најмање једну сезону у Првој лиги Југославије (пре 1992).
 * У загради су стара имена тих клубова

Please give opinions. FkpCascais (talk) 06:20, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey Cascais sorry it took so long for me to reply to your request for comments. I don't think that the table should be included, because there's no way of double-checking if it is correct. I cannot find a comprehensive source for Second League tables anywhere on the Internet (some tables for the period from the 1970s onwards are available but those from earlier seasons are very difficult to come by). Also, I appreciate the effort you did in creating the tables of top places teams in the article itself, but perhaps we should come up with some way of presenting the same information in a more reader-friendly format because this way it looks a bit messy. I'll play around with tables and see if I can come up with an improved version. Cheers. '' Timbouctou 17:12, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
 * OK, no problem. Let me know if you find some table more apropriate for the article. Just remember that we have different league names, dfferent formats, seasons with several champions... At least we have that expressed in the current table. The major problem is that the "lines" between seasons are too soft, so if they could be "pojačane" it would help not to mix the different seasons in the clubs section (specially when there are many 1st, 2nd and 3th places). FkpCascais (talk) 19:57, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Well, this is as far is know the correct version of all-time table (checked myself), but it does not include zonal leagues in fifties, as they are by some not considered as proper 2. league. 1. PROLETER Zrenjanin 883 380 228 (223) 275 1311:1017 983 2. BORAC Čačak 956 363 271 (256) 322 1133:1012 982 3. SPARTAK Subotica 813 344 197 272 1138:949 885 4. TREPČA Kosovska Mitrovica 820 336 203 281 1188:1034 875 5. LEOTAR Trebinje 864 642 194 (185) 328 1121:1074 869 6. SUTJESKA Nikšić 742 354 140 (132) 249 1209:918 841 7. šIBENIK šibenik 803 338 159 (153) 206 1140:1080 829 8. PRIšTINA Priština 744 319 169 (161) 256 1053:885 793 9. OSIJEK Osijek 669 304 170 195 1099:784 778 10. NAPREDAK Kruševac 702 288 179 (173) 235 937:802 749 11. NOVI SAD Novi Sad 722 288 170 264 1009:930 746 12. BORAC Banja Luka 638 291 141 (136) 206 1107:822 718 13. RADNIČKI Kragujevac 646 257 159 (152) 230 949:816 666 14. BUDUĆNOST Titograd 518 267 123 128 824:457 657 15. FAMOS Hrasnica 681 232 191 258 836:843 655 16. POBEDA Prilep 662 245 160 257 894:930 650 17. SLOBODA Titovo Užice 636 235 173 (165) 228 706:659 632 18. ISKRA Bugojno 567 252 122 (116) 183 709:621 620 19. MARIBOR Maribor 559 236 143 180 835:680 615 20. VARTEKS Varaždin 669 223 169 277 873:964 615 21. RADNIČKI Pirot 592 224 159 209 790:698 601 22. DINAMO Vinkovci 559 226 140 (123) 193 819:708 575 23. BOR Bor 526 212 134 (131) 180 647:606 555 24. ZAGREB Zagreb 462 230 92 (89) 140 863:578 549 25. GOšK JUG Dubrovnik 533 207 128 (119) 198 605:591 533 26. TETEKS Tetovo 524 195 137 192 584:612 527 27. JEDINSTVO Brčko 523 193 119 211 588:634 506 28. RAD Beograd 460 183 138 139 575:458 504 29. LOVĆEN Cetinje 552 187 130 235 623:771 504 30. OFK KIKINDA Kikinda 473 198 110 (104) 165 578:509 500 31. ČELIK Zenica 414 205 91 (85) 118 676:457 495 32. RUDAR-LJUBIJA Prijedor 464 199 95 (93) 170 602:526 490 33. BAČKA Bačka Palanka 512 177 139 (132) 196 654:710 486 34. GALENIKA Zemun 452 183 118 (117) 151 638:554 483 35. JEDINSTVO Bihać 489 168 124 197 563:621 459 36. CRVENKA Crvenka 400 162 96 142 582:531 420 37. SPLIT Split 451 155 107 189 597:687 417 38. RABOTNIČKI Skopje 414 146 83 185 577:687 375 39. OLIMPIJA Ljubljana 366 150 75 (72) 141 585:490 372 40. OFK TITOGRAD Titograd 418 131 109 178 454:601 371 41. BOROVO Borovo 391 127 114 150 482:516 368 42. OFK BEOGRAD Beograd 300 152 70 (59) 78 454:274 363 43. MAČVA šabac 384 139 94 (85) 151 451:480 363 44. VARDAR Skopje 284 154 57 (54) 73 485:281 362 45. SLOBODA Tuzla 255 149 59 47 481:237 357 46. DUBOČICA Leskovac 380 124 105 151 362:462 353 47. TREšNJEVKA Zagreb 342 137 78 127 502:473 352 48. PELISTER Bitola 350 143 69 (62) 138 467:418 348 49. KARLOVAC Karlovac 38 119 85 134 427:513 323 50. LOKOMOTIVA Zagreb 337 116 83 138 525:567 315 Linhart (talk) 06:43, 4 April 2011 (UTC)


 * I think we could include this one, as long as all the name changes are explained via footnotes. We also need to specifically state which seasons are excluded.  Timbouctou ( talk ) 16:31, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Seasons
I think we should rethink which seasons to include in the list. It is actually a general problem about what Yugoslav Second League actually is. I think it is not just any league played under the first level, but only when the part of "Druga savezna liga", league actually named yugoslav and second, played on a federal level. So, for me seasons 1952 and 1952-53 can't be counted as second league and they should be listed 'not played'. Is is also a question of 'zonal leagues' 1955-58, I am personaly not sure about that.Linhart (talk) 17:38, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

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