Talk:Yugoslav submarine Smeli

Name in Italian service Comment
While Antonio Bajamonti is most commonly known under his name written with J, the Italian navy's website lists the submarine under the name "Antonio Baiamonti". Jane's and Conway's dito. I assume, the J stems from the Croat/German spelling of an originally Italian name, which would not have used that letter but rather an I. I am, of course, not a linguist, but the spelling is, well "original". ÄDA - DÄP VA (talk) 15:47, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Not that original, actually. Bagnasco (cited), Maurizio Brescia, Luciano Monzali, Franco Botta, ‎Italo Garzia and ‎Pasquale Guaragnella (among other Italians) use that spelling, and Bajamonti himself was a Dalmatian Italian, which would go some way toward explaining it. There are 117 hits on Google Books for the "j" spelling, and 106 for the "i" spelling. I'm going to stick with Bagnasco and Brescia, Bagnasco uses the "j" even in the Italian version. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (crack... thump) 22:55, 18 April 2015 (UTC)


 * The j is just old-fashioned. Word-initial and intervocalic i used to often be written j in Italian. They are spelling variants like connection/connexion or realise/realize. Modern Italian avoids j in most cases. Srnec (talk) 16:11, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I'll take your word for it, but two reliable Italian sources use "j". We go with the sources here, don't we? Regards, Peacemaker67 (crack... thump) 03:23, 22 April 2015 (UTC
 * That's my thinking. Unfortunately we won't be able to have a look on the original documents. More confusingly, the official history of the Italian Navy is using both spellings. So, for all practical reasons the J is preferable, as that is consistent with the article on the person it was named after. Apart from that: Where is the translation coming from? Jane's (1940, p 518) translates Smeli as "ardent". ÄDA - DÄP VA (talk) 07:55, 22 April 2015 (UTC) BTW Thanks for the update, Srnec.