Talk:Zakirjan Asam

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Replaced transcluded image with inline image - npov tag as per dispute on Template talk:Combatant Status Review Tribunal trailer image and caption. Geo Swan 07:47, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

I think default sort is a mistake for individuals with Arabic names
I think default sort is a mistake for individuals with Arabic names.

People with Arabic names don't inherit a surname, like people with an European do. Traditionally the closest thing they have to a "last name" is their father's first name.

And it is absolutely clear to me that it is a mistake to use default sort for the Guantanamo captives -- because the US Department of Defense can't consistently figure out what their names are.

Therefore I just reverted an edit where a well-meaning contributor imposed default sort on this individual.

Please don't impose default sort on these guys without discussing it first.

Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 15:01, 1 March 2008 (UTC)


 * It has been agreed upon at WP Biography that all biographies should have a DEFAULTSORT value to indicate that an editor has given the concept some consideration. Likewise, all Talk pages of biographies should have a value for undefined.
 * Not all persons who have names that are based on Arabic are Arabs. In this case we have a citizen of Uzbekistan.  He is of Turkic origin and his name reflects that.  He may be offended that you have deemed him to be an Arab.
 * In articles such as this one it is best to determine the sort value of the article by the usage in the article. If anyone knows how the article should be sorted it should be the author.  Other Reliable Sources can also be used.
 * JimCubb (talk) 21:07, 8 October 2009 (UTC)