Talk:Zan Parr Bar/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: The Rambling Man (talk · contribs) 16:37, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

Comments That's all I have on a quick skim over the article, so it's on hold. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 16:44, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Only one sentence referenced in the lead, is odd. Suggest removing it but ensuring the fact is reiterated, expanded upon, and referenced in the main part of the article.
 * I've removed the superlatives (which is what the source was to cover) which should cover this problem. Ealdgyth (talk) 18:26, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Three Bars doesn't require disambiguation.
 * fixed Ealdgyth (talk) 18:26, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
 * What does "under saddle" mean to a non-expert?
 * Glossed. Ealdgyth (talk) 18:26, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
 * No photo? I would imagine that by now a fair use image would be just fine.
 * "His dam was" link jargon.
 * Glossed. Ealdgyth (talk) 18:26, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
 * "of Tulare, California and" comma after Ca.
 * Fixed Ealdgyth (talk) 18:26, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
 * "15.3 hands high and weighed 1250 pounds" convert both of these to units that non-experts/non-Imperial folks would understand.
 * Added template (which links hands) Ealdgyth (talk) 18:26, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
 * And indeed, I would link "hand" as it's not a commonly used unit of measurement (certainly not outside the horse world).
 * as above Ealdgyth (talk) 18:26, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
 * "a couple of" do you mean two?
 * The source says "debut in California halter competition, earning several grand and reserve titles." - so I don't have a specific. I've changed it to "earning some Grand Champion and Reserve Grand Championships." in the article which covers the inprecise nature of the source. Ealdgyth (talk) 18:26, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
 * "a few " this doesn't really feel encyclopedic either.
 * as above. Ealdgyth (talk) 18:26, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
 * "Cal Poly" put this after the first full use in parentheses, i.e. "at California Polytechnic State University (Cal Poly)"
 * Done. Ealdgyth (talk) 18:26, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
 * "stallion to Texas and" link Texas first time.
 * fixed. Ealdgyth (talk) 18:26, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
 * "then husband" hyphenate.
 * done. Ealdgyth (talk) 18:26, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
 * "showing western pleasure, earning 19 points in western pleasure" repetitive.
 * now "earning 19 points in the discipline with the AQHA" Ealdgyth (talk) 18:26, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
 * The points earned is interesting but completely without context, is that a large number of points? A record?
 * It's a very large number but there isn't a way to contextualize it. A person who is likely to read this article (as I have no plans of going to FAC with it, this is pretty much all the facts about the horse) will almost assuredly be a horse person so they'll want to know total points, and will get the context. If I was going to FAC, I'd have to figure out a way to contextualize this but ... since it's not going to happen... I think we're okay here. Ealdgyth (talk) 18:26, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
 * "a sire, he sired" Repetitive, I don't think you need "As a sire".
 * Fixed Ealdgyth (talk) 18:26, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
 * "of World Champion horses" why capitalised? Not a formal title.
 * Actually, yes it is. A formally granted title from the AQHA - they are a very big deal. A bigger deal than a Grand Championship at a single show - it's being named the Grand Champion of a discipline at the AQHA World Show - which has formal qualificiation requirements which are pretty hefty. Ealdgyth (talk) 18:26, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
 * "produced Sparkles Rosezana, Zans Diamond Sun and Sparkles Suzana" why pick these out of the 600+? Were any of them notable, successful?
 * All three are - and they are singled out by the source (and by the AQHA in their biography of the horse for the Hall of Fame.) Ealdgyth (talk) 18:26, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
 * "Show.[4][1] Five " ref numerical order.
 * I did this but it's not required at all. Ealdgyth (talk) 18:26, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
 * "won all-around high point awards" what are these?
 * Explained. Ealdgyth (talk) 18:26, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
 * "of Colitis X on" no need for capital C on colitis.
 * Fixed.
 * Where is pedigree section referenced?
 * Tacked on. Ealdgyth (talk) 18:26, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
 * You could add the URL to ref 1?
 * I don't because there's an annoying bot that goes around and adds archive-urls to the short references and that mucks up the short references into insanely long things. However, I've gone ahead and added it since you asked. Ealdgyth (talk) 18:26, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I've dealt with everything but the photo, which isn't a requirement for GA to have a fair use image. Ealdgyth (talk) 18:26, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I realise I've reviewed a bit beyond GA criteria, I always do and it's usually greeted with thanks rather than indignation, but it was all just to improve Wikipedia. I'll promote.  The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 18:45, 3 May 2022 (UTC)