Talk:Zarana

Mainframe
Nothing about Mainframe? Or is that only related to the tv series? 64.241.230.3 20:41, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Twins
Can we please make it clear that this "twin" plotpoint that has been the subject of so many recent edits is referenced in the continuity it belongs in (IDW) and NOT across ALL continuities. I attempted a simple cleanup on the Dreadnok Siblings articles, and it has resulted in a truly bizarre reaction. Twins, secret languages, Zoe and Zack, all of this stuff was absent in the original mythos 2600:6C58:4E7F:E4DC:344D:BB96:9079:FC40 (talk) 21:38, 9 August 2022 (UTC)


 * I don’t know where you’re getting your information from that you deem appropriate or inappropriate for Zartan/Zandar’s/Zarana’s profile section, but attempting to remove what is core information is biased at best and vandalism at worst. It is not “fan fiction”, nor does it need to be removed. Wikipedia doesn’t, or at least shouldn’t, concern itself with fandom squabbles over what does and doesn’t constitute “canon”. It concerns itself with providing information from a neutral point of view, and you are biased against that particular information, as evidenced by referring to it as fan fiction and “garbage” in your earlier edit summaries. I would like to work on an amicable resolution and put an end to this edit war. Dreadnok Twins (talk) 07:55, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
 * @Dreadnok Twins The solution is that you isolate the information to the continuities it applies to. If it appears in the original series (it doesn't), give a reference to the ORIGINAL series that shows this. Thus far, your only reference from the 80s is a self-contained kids book that was never anything but a standalone. 2600:1005:B102:CB7B:1617:B49F:1085:E83D (talk) 14:50, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Being that the references are all part of official material licenced by Hasbro, you can't reasonably call it fan-fiction. You may not agree with the twin language stuff, or the Zack and Zoe stuff, but it was included in an official product licenced by Hasbro. HOWEVER, these additions do occur only in a single iteration of said product. For instance, the Marvel Universe is separated into multiple different multiversal designations of which the Prime Universe is considered 616. G.I. Joe is likewise split into multiple iterations across the past 40 years and I would suggest that only the information that is universal among ALL iterations be included in the main profile section, with the rest being contained to their respective universes. DarkLordMordred (talk) 08:54, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
 * As far as fan fiction goes, I didn't know that it wasn't fan fiction beforehand, and I'm not trying to dismiss the plotline. Being unfamiliar with it, I researched it, found that it only occurred here and there, and reasoned that it shouldn't be included in a general overview of the characters. Even if you want to include the twin things in a general overveiw, the sentence should be something along the lines of "Zandar and Zarana are *sometimes* portrayed as twins."
 * But no I wasn't being intentionally rude by calling it fanficiton. I truly didn't know. 2600:6C58:4E7F:E4DC:70EC:7696:B445:9EAF (talk) 22:29, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
 * This edit war has to end. It's been going on for over a month now. Dreadnok Twins (talk) 22:07, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Not warring with you. Just making sure the article's references line up with the information it presents. 172.223.12.31 (talk) 22:20, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * It has lined up with the information it presents for years. Prove you're not warring with me by not altering my next edit. Dreadnok Twins (talk) 00:05, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Look... here are the FACTS about this situation: Zandar and Zarana have NEVER been portrayed as twins in the cartoon, the toy line, the Marvel comic series, and the movies (Zarana isn't even in the movies). They HAVE been portrayed as twins in "Choose Your Own Adventure"-style books, Devil's Due Comics, and IDW Comics (both Hama and non-Hama versions). In fact, since Hama's IDW comic is a direct continuation of his Marvel comic, the fact that he acknowledged their being twins in the IDW continuation retroactively applies to the Marvel series, as well. Further, Hama wrote the bios that were used for the toy file cards and, although the file cards don't specifically state Zandar and Zarana are twins, the fact Hama wrote them and has acknowledged they are twins in his comic series, should also retroactively apply it to the toys. This basically leaves the cartoon and films as the only two media where Zandar and Zarana are not definitively portrayed as twins (note that they are not definitively NOT portrayed as twins, either). So, random IP editor, whose name I do not know, because you don't edit under an actual account here, why do you continue to change the information of their being twins? The people who grew up with the property in the 80s may not have thought about them being twins, but the people who grew up with the property in the 2000s, having read the DDP and IDW comics about them, have never known them NOT to be twins. If you want to move around the information about Zanya (who ONLY exists in DDP) or the special twin language (which ONLY exists in the non-Hama IDW comic) that's one thing, but the fact that they are twins should remain in the general information section. DarkLordMordred (talk) 08:42, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
 * @DarkLordMordred it's not general information. it exists in a single continuity and is not explored anywhere else.
 * this page's gatekeeper has an agenda, and that agenda goes against the very intent of Wikipedia. 2600:6C58:4E7F:E4DC:51BF:9881:A592:839D (talk) 21:37, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I propose a compromise. The information and references to Zartan’s younger set of twin siblings be mentioned in specific sections, as you would see it, and also be mentioned in the Zartan article’s main profile section, as I would see it. Dreadnok Twins (talk) 16:07, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm removing some redundant language. There's no reason to say "In this continuity..." when headers already indicate the continuity. Dreadnok Twins (talk) 09:09, 14 April 2023 (UTC)