Talk:Zbigniew Ziobro

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PaintedCarpet (talk) 16:07, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

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Ami magazine
The text “ Ziobro has also announced that he was considering the introduction of a law to target language used to refer to Poland's role in the Holocaust.” was removed because
 * 1) it’s outdated
 * 2) what a politician says he “might” do isn’t encyclopedic and hence UNDUE.

More importantly I just checked the source (here it is - there was no link provided originally) and shockingly, Ziobro, is not even mentioned in the piece. So this is a pretty blatant misrepresentation and a BLP vio, on top of everything else.  Volunteer Marek  21:15, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Regarding your last point, Zioboro is mentioned in the printed magazine. The link only provides the beginning of the article, as you can see at the bottom of the page: To read more, subscribe to Ami, meaning that the rest of the article (which includes mention of Ziobro) is available only to subscribers. I will not argue on your first two points; so if someone will remove the paragraph, I will not edit-war. I, personally, prefer to leave it the way it is. Thanks for listening, -- -- -- 21:35, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
 * oh, I see, thanks for clarifying that. As to the broader issue IF Ziobro proposes some law like that I would have absolutely no problem with including it in the article. But this is from two years ago and afaik he hasn’t so it’s not particularly encyclopedic.  Volunteer Marek   22:05, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
 * That's a duplicitious argument. The law was passed a few weeks later as described in, , and . After a large backlash it was softened a bit as written in Poland’s Holocaust Law Weakened After ‘Storm and Consternation’ (New York Times), that writes that "it was Mr. Ziobro’s own ministry that had drafted the law, and he personally had voted for it as a member of Parliament."Mellow Boris (talk) 05:47, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Dude, that’s even LESS of a reason to include that sentence as written. “Joe Biden said he might run for President”.  Volunteer Marek   05:59, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Dude, I fixed it . You can fix it to "Joe Biden was elected president" or "Zbigniew Ziobro was the driving force behind Poland's controversial amendment to the Act on the Institute of National Remembrance which outlawed speech on Polish-Nazi cooperation". Both are large events in their careers.Mellow Boris (talk) 06:05, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
 * No, you actually didn’t. You were also violating the 500/30 restriction.  Volunteer Marek   06:11, 9 August 2021 (UTC)