Talk:Zeebo

FIFA 2008? Brain Training?
The Zeebo page mentions "Treino Cerebral" (lit. "Brain Training") and "a soccer game", featuring a FIFA-ish cover art with the title edited out. While it seems possible that the soccer game is indeed by EA since they have other titles announced, I find it very unlikely that the brain training game is indeed Nintendo's Brain Age, as the wikilink suggests. Is there any reliable source confirming this? --Kamek (talk) 17:44, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

No thanks.
We don't group "Zeebo" with PS3, X360 and Wii as the sole seventh generation consoles. Kindly refrain from doing so.


 * "We" don't go by the whims of an anonymous IP giving directives with an attitude that violates WP:CIVIL, based on personal opinion rather than WP:Consensus here. --Marty Goldberg (talk) 22:13, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Console generation
Zeebo does not have any of the features that are typical of the latest gen consoles like the 360, the PS3 and the Wii -- it was only released in the same timeframe. Is it really fair to group it up with the other seventh generation consoles? IMHO a console should be grouped with comparable ones. Would you call a relaunch of the 2600, only with the ability to download games wirelessly, a seventh generation console? We should find a better way to classify the Zeebo and any other consoles that are outdated at launch. -- claviola  (talk to me)  03:05, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * That comparison makes little sense, this isn't a relaunch of old technology (and if a modern console with 2600 compatibility was released, yes that would not disqualify it). Console generations here are not simply by comparable technology and not simply by release date - putting it in fifth generation, which is a mid 90's generation, would also be out of place.  The Zeebo clearly has major elements from the current generation and market, specifically the gearing towards downloadable distribution, and was specifically designed with modern technology - not a rehash of 90's technology.  Likewise, the market is moving towards downloadable content distribution, and that is a major focus of the current generation and oncoming generation of handhelds and consoles.  The fact that its supported graphics may not be up to par with others in the current generation has little bearing - generations are not defined simply by graphics.  The Wii, for instance, doesn't have near the graphics capabilities of the 360 and PS3, and in fact is not much beyond the previous generations GameCube, but is still clearly part of the current generation with its downloadable content and unique interaction via the Wiimotes.  The Zeebo is a meant to be a current, lower end modern console made affordable primarily for 3rd world and developing countries.  At most, it could be argued to add to this article that its graphics are comparable to a fifth generation console, but you'd need to provide a notable and reliable source stating that - not just on personal opinion or observation, which constitutes WP:OR (and what the recent spat of anonymous IP editors were trying to do).  If you have questions on how generations are defined here, and WP:Consensus, I'd suggest asking over at   The Wikipedia Video Game project's talk page.  But if you want to change current consensus, the onus on you and others to find the reliable and notable references that support the change. --Marty Goldberg (talk) 03:58, 30 June 2009 (UTC

You do raise some good points, but Zeebo is relatively unknown outside the third-world countries. The three consoles listed ( the Wii, Xbox 360, and PS3 ) are the main consoles of the 7th generation. They are big sellers and are available even in a lot of third world countries. I do like the console for its price and intentions but it seems to me as a stand-alone console. If by any chance this console advertised itself in the media when Nintendo's, Sony's, and Microsoft's consoles did and was able to compete with these huge brand names, i would classify it as a seventh generation video game console. But as of now, that is not the case. --User:DavidEGonzalez


 * The main point is that Wikipedia is not the judge of whether Zeebo is 7th-gen. The console is classified as such in our reliable sources, and as such we simply report what they report.  If there's a reliable source that says otherwise, then we should consider that for equal weight. &mdash; KieferSkunk (talk) &mdash; 23:40, 3 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Zeebo should still not be a part of the seventh generation game consoles, otherwise consoles like OnLive and such would also be here .T-oliveira (talk) 01:25, 31 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Seems like OnLive would be a decent candidate for being included in 7th-gen consoles, actually, or more accurately, the "MicroConsole" (OnLive refers to the online service, not a physical platform). But in any event, this is still a matter for our reliable sources to determine, not Wikipedia itself.  So far, I still haven't seen an actual source say that Zeebo isn't 7th-gen. &mdash; KieferSkunk (talk) &mdash; 18:43, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually from what i see on this page no reliable source is present on the claims for seventh generation, can you add the source that does make this calim to the info box?., thanks Ottawa4ever (talk) 09:43, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually it was over at the seventh generation template talk page, so I copied some of them over here as requested. As stated, all reliable sources discuss it as part of the current generation and some go so far as to say "fourth console". --Marty Goldberg (talk) 21:03, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Many thanks. If its sourced theres no objection from me. Happy editing Ottawa4ever (talk) 22:07, 5 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Not a single one of those references called it a seventh generation system and one called it a forth generation system. --Catagris (talk) 16:41, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * You are mistaken. The references state the fourth console of this generation, not a fourth generation system.  The current generation and consoles they specifically mention are of course seventh generation.  Unless you're claiming Xbox360, PS3, and Wii to not be seventh generation. --Marty Goldberg (talk) 20:19, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Why?
It is beyond me as to why people are even considering adding Zeebo to Template:Seventh generation game consoles. Take a look at the article for the seventh generation. Zeebo hardly even gets so much as a mention. It doesn't belong on that template. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.28.152.244 (talk) 00:28, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Whether or not it has a lot or a little written about it in the seventh generation article is irrelevant to it being classified as part of the current generation. Again, see above regarding consensus on generations.  And I would once again warn you to abandon your  disruptive editing and gross violations of WP:CIVIL. --Marty Goldberg (talk) 08:47, 8 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I agree with User Wgungfu, personal grudges to not stop Zeebo from being a Seventh Generation console. mcjakeqcool Mcjakeqcool (talk) 14:37, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

When will Zeebo get releace outside of Brazil
Does anyone have any idea when Zeebo will get releace outside of Brazil? When they do, I'll add it to the featured article. mcjakeqcool Mcjakeqcool (talk) 14:36, 21 September 2009 (UTC)


 * No joy? When anyone has got any give us a bell asap. mcjakeqcool Mcjakeqcool (talk) 14:55, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Released today in Mexico. --201.78.69.199 (talk) 13:48, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Misleading screenshots
Tectoy was caught using screenshots from other systems' far superior versions of some games in the Zeebo site. Namely, the Xbox 360 version of Prey and the PSP version of Need for Speed: Carbon. --Stormwatch (talk) 06:23, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Price
I just looked at thre price for the Ps3 in brazil. I think i understand why this system exists there. but has anyone seen any sources that compare the pricing directly? Ottawa4ever (talk) 10:02, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Zeebo is a piece of useless junk even here in Brazil, reason that nobody actually knows about it here, least buy it. The price is not even compeling. Right now you can buy a Zeebo (god forbids you) for R$400,00 while a PS3 goes for about R$1200,00 the current exchange rate is of about R1,70 = US$1,00. The Zeebo price is the same of a PS2 that is far superior to this kind of console (trust me, i saw one on a store once) reason why people prefer to buy a last centure console than Zeebo. -- Alvaro Ludolf Ribeiro —Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.105.131.53 (talk) 05:11, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

There isn't one iota of evidence...
...listed here or in the article that suggests that the Zeebo should be officially recognized as a "seventh generation console", and even though a "consensus" was supposedly formed over the issue it yet to be linked to anywhere on this talk page. I suggest removing it from the template unless there is a rational argument in favor of retaining it. 71.246.76.39 (talk) 19:48, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
 * You are mistaken. The references (which meet Wikipedia's policies on valid and reliable references), are indeed provided to and linked to in this article.  In fact three are provided.  Likewise you are misrepresenting the previous happenings, any consensus generated was based on the availability of said references.  Discussion occurred here and on the seventh generation template discussion page. --Marty Goldberg (talk) 20:14, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Zeebo shutting down in Brazil
From the official blog:


 * Hi, folks,
 * We're here to communicate that, due to Zeebo Inc.'s strategic business realignment, Zeebo Brasil and Zeebo Interactive Studios will cease operating in the country.
 * All of the Zeebo team thanks your great support to the system, the contents and services provided from the product's release, and mainly to those who were with us in the social networks and here in the blog.
 * We'd like to emphasize that the call center, and warranty and maintenance services are being kept active, as established by the brazilian law. The online store will stay open until september 30, 2011.
 * From now on and until that date, games will have special prices, so that all have the chance to acquire new titles for their system at reduced values. All contents acquired by Zeebo users will remain active and available in the system for use at any moment.
 * Thanks to all,
 * Zeebo team

Guess it's over as a game system, although it seems they're trying to give it an extra life as an "interactive entertainment and education platform" or whatever. -- Stormwatch (talk) 01:42, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Does this mean that FINALLY it can be removed from the seventh generation console listing. Or are the over zealous 'mods' (and I use that term very loosely) still loitering with nothing better else to do? Zeebo, what a joke. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.104.175.214 (talk) 19:06, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
 * No the simple fact the console won't be produced any more does not mean that it is not part of the 7th generation. By that logic the fact the the Nintendo Entertainment System is out of production means that it is not a part of the 3rd generation and I doubt that anyone would seriously make that claim. I also think that it is also the other way around and the people that are being overzelous are the people trying to remove the system due to personal dislike for the console despite the fact that numerous reliable sources have called it a seventh generation console and in the several years people have been trying to have it removed they have been unable to find even one reliable source to support their position. In short, it won't happen without solid sourcing.--76.66.186.54 (talk) 04:34, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Nintendo's employees/fanboys
I urge you not to continue vandalizing this article as you are insulting my country, Brazil, with your shameful edits. You sound like Nintendo's employees or fanboys.--190.174.156.182 (talk) 11:39, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Why do you think that Its Nintendo fans doing this? I am not aware of any animosity between the fan bases and this could have just as easily be done by fans of the other two major systems.--70.49.74.113 (talk) 05:58, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Zeebo is a home video game console
Hi, I'm Charmugen, the guy mostly responsible for the list of microconsoles wiki page, and for about 2 years, I have been wanting to remove Zeebo from the list of microconsoles, but didn't have the time to do research on this console, until now. Basically I'm going to argue that Zeebo is an actual video game console, not a microconsole. Now, I did trace the guy who thought Zeebo was a microconsole, his/her name is 1.36.79.169, the guy sole responsible for changing Zeebo into a mircoconsole which it isn't. Suprisingly, nobody in about 2 years did nothing to change that. I'm about to. Here are the main reasons why Zeebo isn't a microconsole, but first, what is considered a microconsole?

A Microconsole is either a:

1. Cloud gaming console (Ex. Onlive, G-cluster, etc.)

2. Android-based console (Ex. Ouya, MOJO, Gamestick, etc.)

3. Or Both

4. The likes of Playstation TV (an exception, has cloud gaming and physical media)

Where does Zeebo fit? None, Zeebo is neither Android-based nor has cloud gaming. However, it does distribute digital media, but its "games and other content are downloaded wirelessly over broadband cellular networks.". "Players are able to buy and download games and other content wirelessly through 3G or EDGE." This isn't Cloud Gaming guys. This is more like Nintendo's eShop, Xbox Live Game Store, etc. Read more here Plus, Marriot_Guy, the guy over at videogameconsolelibrary.com/ with his awesome collection and information on consoles, doesn't consider Zeebo as a microconsole, and clearly distinguish Ouya, MOJO as different animals than Zeebo. Zeebo is more like Hasbro NetJet, Stix, and Sifteo Cubes than it is to Ouya and the likes. If you read the Microconsole wiki page and Zeebo's Overview, Wireless capabilities, and Games sections, you can clearly see that Zeebo is not a microconsole, but an actual console, or at least a different animal. Now, without further adew, I'm going to change Zeebo's status, so that it becomes a home video game console. Charmugen (talk) 17:27, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Disagree with this change. I've replied at Template:Video game consoles. -- ferret (talk) 17:58, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
 * The discussion whether Zeebo is a home video game console or microconsole is still ongoing at Template:Video game consoles talk page (Go there to discuss) -- Charmugen (talk) 00:08, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Intro has tone of advert
It was a gaming console. It had some (very little) educational/edutainment content and could connect to the internet with "some" functionality. To say it was a "3G-enabled entertainment and education system" and "enabled users" to do stuff is marketing talk. I am asking here and not changing it by myself because I am flummoxed on how this could remain so long in this article. --Xario (talk) 12:10, 11 January 2019 (UTC)