Talk:Zen Narratives

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Created page in response to discussion at Talk:Zen. Joshua Jonathan  -  Let's talk!   20:43, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

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what is a narrative
Hi, I am a little confused about the term narrative. This seems to be used as some historical or maybe sociological term here, but the article on narrative: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narrative lists about 10 different definitions. But the artcle doesn't help, when it just says: "Modern scientific research on the history of Zen discerns three main narratives concerning Zen,..." If you ctrl+f for 'history' here (because of 'historical'), multiple definitions get hit. I think, this could need a bit more context (like a link pointing to what exactly 'narrative' means here). Must.learn.more. (talk) 13:47, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Good point. Joshua Jonathan  - Let's talk!  14:59, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Narrative confusion
I got an edit to the narratives section in the main Zen article removed because it was thought to give undue weight. I am confused as to what a narrative means in the context of that article and this one like the above poster. I'd like to discuss it.

GoutComplex (talk) 13:05, 24 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Narrative in this context means a view on the origins and nature of the Zen-tradition, structured like a story. So, the section is not about any random storg related to Zen Buddhism, but on three specofic views on Zen and it's history. Regards, Joshua Jonathan  - Let's talk!  19:11, 24 January 2023 (UTC)