Talk:Zero (Drakengard)

Merge
Re: Talk:Luke_fon_Fabre—a common argument to avoid in deletion discussions is "other stuff exists", or that since another article exists, another one should follow the same suit. Each article is judged on its own merits and prior precedent rather than what has been constructed around it (obviously editors can only discuss one article at a time...) This said, I think this has the same issues as Luke fon Fabre. Zero was evidently instrumental in Drakengard 3 but all sources used are about the game itself, so making an article on Zero is analogous to writing an article on Forza Horizon driving mechanics, to borrow hahnchen's metaphor. There may be enough text to write about the character's development and her role in the story, but the sources do not highlight the character as some independently notable feature independent of the game itself. That's why articles like this should be merged into their parent game articles. As for the GA status, while it is a shame, GA reviews do not assess independent notability as part of their criteria, though we have a precedent of redirecting and merging GA and even FAs, as the notability standards of WP have changed over time. czar 17:45, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Oppose merge - There is enough third party sourcing and content present to warrant a separate article. There is plenty of relevant and detailed content about the subject's creation and reception, focused specifically on the character, to warrant a standalone article. Sergecross73   msg me  18:41, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I know this is an extremely old merge discussion, but I am legitimately curious as to what the WP:THREE sources are that make this article stand alone notability-wise. I was thinking of starting one myself but happened upon this older never closed one. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 17:57, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I think this article was not maintained and might be abandoned already by @ProtoDrake. I hope the reception section will be cleaned up and implement the sources from further reading section like the Yuna (Final Fantasy) article, thus avoiding GAR.  Greenish Pickle!   (🔔) 13:13, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
 * As the article creator...I don't think this article holds up to modern character article standards as they're shaping. I might merge it myself. --ProtoDrake (talk) 13:47, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Counterargument: I feel the article actually does a pretty good job, and the reception section just needs a tidy (my hatred of quote boxes thanks to a certain you-know-who may also be speaking there in part not gonna lie...), but I feel it's informing the reader about her character and that there was a significant reaction to her. Additionally a cursory look at Scholar shows books and published papers also offering some character examination.
 * I don't think it needs even a GAR, just a light dusting.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 20:01, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm inclined to agree with KFM on this matter, particularly based on my own research. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 20:03, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Then someone should implement the sources from further reading section into article. 2001:4455:658:5000:904E:7725:C1B4:AAEF (talk) 12:33, 25 July 2023 (UTC)