Talk:Zhang Hongbao

Articles for deletion/Zhong Gong
FYI. Ikip (talk) 02:19, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Regarding the recent edit, I would like to know where this text came from. It doesn't seem exactly lifted from Palmer, but maybe elements of it. The Sound and the Fury (talk) 09:01, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Yes, it is copied from "David Palmer's book "Qigong Fever"" I think his view is more close to the true —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.246.40.54 (talk) 16:23, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Good to know. I would be happy to paraphrase and summarise it later. Or you may wish to do that yourself. The Sound and the Fury (talk) 03:41, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

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Removed unsourced details from Death
''Zhang's death in a suspicious car accident in the United States at the age of 52, was a non-event which went unreported. At a highway intersection in northern Arizona, his car was crushed by tractor-trailer truck travelling towards it at 60 miles per hour on 31 July 2006. Both he and his female driver, who was also his secretary, died. After Zhang's death, Zhong Gong almost disappeared from the public eye due to the internal friction.'' - Most of this was cited to Chinaview (reference 12), but the linked blog post makes no mention of these details. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.102.30.205 (talk) 19:55, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Also, that website is obviously very pro-Falun Gong, and potentially anti-Zhong Gong, so their opinion is unlikely to be NPOV regarding the death of Zhang Hongbao. 118.160.30.252 (talk) 08:06, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * My initial edit noted that the claim that his death was "suspicious" has been attributed to The Epoch Times. (Although I did fail to note that it is a Falun Gong publication, as I assumed someone familiar with the subject matter would know that - that was a mistake on my part.) However, Chinaview was correct about Zhang being persona non gratis in the Western media; I still can't find an obituary or even a report about the crash in any American news source. I did find some further information here: https://bitterwinter.org/zhonggong-the-cult-that-refused-to-die/

"Zhang died on July 31, 2006 at the age of 52, when his car collided with a large truck on the Arizona highway. His followers suspected foul play, and accusations of a Chinese conspiracy to kill Zhang were mostly relayed by the Falun Gong-connected Epoch Times." I'm not certain whether we would consider this a reliable source. But at the very least it is a Western source so it is a step removed from the direct rivalry between the CCP and the religious sects. But in any case, I can't see why it would be considered biased to simply note that The Epoch Times called the crash "suspicious". 97.102.30.205 (talk) 21:04, 23 October 2023 (UTC)