Talk:Zoo Tycoon 2: Extinct Animals/Archive 1

Velociraptor
The Velociraptor was seen in the top bar in the new video.

(Dinwrest 19:45, 13 August 2007 (UTC))

Hadrosaurs!?!?!?
So far there are NO hadrosaurs confirmed!!!!! Ornithomimus 20:29, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Fences
If you look on the video, during the dimetrodon part there is a new type of fence around the exhibit. The same fence also appears in the screenshot of the megatherium in the scrub environment.

Last
This is not the last expansion, I edited that out. --67.162.31.74 04:39, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Problem with Confirmed Animals
I see that some people are putting animals to the list that haven't been confirmed by Microsoft or Blue Fang at the moment, and I just want to notify this: currently we know of three animals which are the Mammoth, the Wooly Rhino, and the Smilodon. If you see other animals confirmed, cite your sources (provide a link proving the animal has been confirmed) of the information and we'll be fine with it. Thank you. The Helper S 05:33, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

That's SOOOO annoying. Dora Nichov 13:19, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

YEAH!! It confuzes others. Dinoman96 17:18, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Pictures Request
I can't beleive someone's requested a picture. No animals or objects have even been confirmed - and if there were any pictures, I'm good enough to put them on! --218.111.23.71 11:03, 24 January 2007 (UTC) (Sorry - didn't realise I wasn't logged in! I am User:Cuddly Panda

Yeah... Dora Nichov 13:19, 1 February 2007 (UTC) Agreed. The Helper S 20:26, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Right. Dora Nichov 02:05, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

I FOUND SOME PICTURES WERE RELEASED YESTERDAY! I DONT KNOW HOW TO PUT PICTURE IN WIKIPEDI AND ITS IN PROTECTED MODE. LINK: http://i.i.com.com/cnet.g2/images/2007/191/939680_20070711_screen001.jpg http://i.i.com.com/cnet.g2/images/2007/191/939680_20070711_screen002.jpg http://i.i.com.com/cnet.g2/images/2007/191/939680_20070711_screen003.jpg http://i.i.com.com/cnet.g2/images/2007/191/939680_20070711_screen004.jpg

THESE PICS HAVE NEW ANIMALS, OBJECTS, FOSSIL HUNTING MODE AND ETC.

I found these pics on the games for windows site:   GrimpyNZ 17:33, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

I believe BF_KeithC on the Zoo Admin fourms (The Vacation Home) will be giving information about the game every week. Here's the Pics so far.     Dinoman96 12:02, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Semi-Protection
Do you think this article needs semi-protection? Teak 00:21, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

YES YES YES! Dora Nichov 03:50, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Heck Yeah! This Article is crawling with moronaters... Dinoman96 18:16, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Mostly one actually: Bunny Beater/Komodo Lover/Black Rhino Ranger/Womcat/Snakezilla... Dora Nichov 10:57, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Editing abuse
I don't know about the rest of you...but I am getting tired of all this constant editing, and reverting and so forth. This article has reached well over 500 edits, and the stupid game has not even been released yet. For that matter, an official sneak peak has not yet been released by Microsoft, so how can all these "facts" be proven or disproven?

This is getting close to edit warring, and before an admin decides to completely lock the article, we should start choosing our edits wisely. Blipadouzi 01:05, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Quick Question
I just wanted to know, some have put this month as a release for the expansion and others have put it between May-August (as currently put). Can anyone tell me why so many are pinpointing the release date so close when no actual information has even been given? I haven't seen any official BF info yet, so I'm going to put TBA 2007 until release info is confirmed. Discusion welcome on the topic (PS: Off-topic, but I also registered at ZA last week so I could recieve access to the site and discuss stuff there; I used to lurk there occasionally for a few years but since now it's members-only, I just registered so feel free to contact me there). The Helper S 00:14, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Currently there are two possible major release dates - July 3rd according to a swedish website, and October 3rd according to another website. I think we should just write 'Spring 2007' or 'Second Quarter 2007' or something along the lines of 'Spring-Summer' --JohnVMaster 19:54, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Extinct Animals on Games for Windows
http://www.gamesforwindows.com/en-US/Games/Pages/ZooTycoon2ExtinctAnimals.aspx 144.137.230.165 14:31, 17 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Interesting find...the cover art looks nice, but I noticed something on the article someone put up...someone here said that the Wal-Mart website already listed the Prima Guide for this XP with an arrival date of 4/30/07, surely the expansions shouldn't be coming out so soon without information even on the main site or info from BF representatives at ZA, am I missing something here? The Helper S 05:19, 20 April 2007 (UTC)


 * It say Forbidden when i try to get on Zoo Admin. Is it just me? Dinoman96 18:49, 30 April 2007

Happens to me to. Jntg4 (not logged in)


 * A Swiss website has Zoo tycoon 2 EA listed for release on 05/07/2007. Yeah Right. Dinoman96 00:49, 17 July 2007 (UTC)


 * The Swiss list their dates as in DD/MM/YYYY not MM/DD/YYYY so it's July 3, not May 7 (If they're not pulling a Wal-Mart)--JohnVMaster 22:20, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Woolly rhino
How can you tell it is a Coelodonta?


 * It's just speculated to be Coelodonta currently, so we aren't sure yet about that one so it could be another extinct rhino species, like a Elasmotherium (unlikely, since the rhino in the film snippet looks like it had two horns, but I could b mistaken). Until we actually find out, then I edited the article to say it is speculated only and not confirmed. The Helper S 22:02, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Dinosaurs
Do you think there will be any? Dinoman96 00:49, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Well, IMO (possibly or possibly not true just yet, I believe it might not due to the fact that the boxart has more recent animals and have already released the Dino Danger pack, though. But that's just my speculation...there could be dinos in it, and the name is "Extinct Animals", so it isn't ruled out just yet. The Helper S 22:58, 30 April 2007 (UTC)


 * The other day, some idiot posted that there would be a Tyrannosaurus in Extinct Animals. THERE'S ALREADY A T-REX AVAILABLE!! Seriously, some people...
 * Eat your words. Press release, read it! --Cuddly Panda 07:18, 5 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I wrote that BEFORE the press release...before any of us knew the DD pack (or at least two of the dinos) would be included. At the time, the guy was being a typical Moronator. CBFan 16:22, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Volcano
Isn't there one in ZT2: ES?Patrickstar2 (talk) 03:08, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes. --218.208.248.60 02:26, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Thylacine/Carnotaurus/Triceratops/Gastornis
If whoever keeps adding them to the list would be so kind as to show us where they got the confirmed (and note that word) information, please post it here. Otherwise, we know nothing about any of these animals, so stop posting them Snakezilla. 212.139.252.189 11:16, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Black rhino ranger: Snake is right, there will be a tasmanian tiger because he heard that it is in the video, not the smilodon and if the t-rex and styrachosaurus is in EA then the rest of the dinos from Dino Danger should be in EA and the gastornis and Quagga are in the screenshots so DO NOT REMOVE ANY OF THESE ANIMALS and stop saying Tylacine. Its giving me and snake a headache

That's because you ARE SnakeZilla. You must be, because you're using the same stupid method of signing your name. I already told you, press THIS key ~ four times and it automatically signs your name! I already told SnakeZilla (or rather, YOU) that no Thylacine has been confirmed. PROVE that a Thylacine has been confirmed (WITHOUT saying "the video") and we'll believe you. Likewise, show screenshots that the Triceratops and Carnotaurus are DEFINATELY in EA (yes, it's highly likely that they will be, but we don't have proof as yet) AND this "second batch of screenshots" that show the Gastornis and Quagga you constantly whinge about and we'll believe you. Otherwise, stop vandalising Black Rhino Ranger/SnakeZilla/Moronator. And finally, you have no right to tell me to stop saying Thylacine (which, I may point out, you've spelt incorrectly). It is the technical name for Tasmanian Tiger, looks more scientific and is easier to write AND say, so I don't see your problem.

Absolutely right!!! Dora Nichov 09:02, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Mistakes
Blackrhino ranger: I think the release has made a mistake, the t-rex should only be in Dino Danger as well as the styrachosaurus. the screen shot must have taken two animals and one is from a diferent expasion pack, styrachosaurus should not be in EA, it should be in DD2
 * READ THE DAMNED PRESS RELEASE! --Cuddly Panda 07:19, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * And sign your name properly. And stop creating more than one account, Snakezilla (we know it's you) CBFan 16:23, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

CP and CBFan are right, I have nothing more to say. Dora Nichov 09:01, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Black rhino ranger: I Have no chioce, I Have To Have This

Sign your blooming name properly! 212.219.92.36 10:07, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Stop acting so stupid and dumb and who knows what. You don't have to vandalize. Dora Nichov 10:20, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Black rhino ranger: I'm not allowed to do this

Stop deleting posts BRR. You are NOT allowed to do what you are currently doing. You MUST sign properly. There is no two ways about it. 80.43.115.178 17:07, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Do what? Dora Nichov 09:01, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Sign your ruddy name properly!! FOUR of these signs (~).

Black rhino ranger: Signing my name before my quote is the an exersising thing, That will be lazy if I just added in 4 signs (~).

It is NOT lazy, it is the RULES. It also makes Wikipedia run smoother. You are a vandal and a Moronator for NOT doing it...more of one, considering your history. Just type this ~ four times. 212.219.92.36 12:53, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Fine. Black Rhino Ranger 02:37, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Good. Dora Nichov 04:10, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Mammoth
Sorry to disturb this discussion page's petty squabbling, but I just wanted to point out that the mammoth isn't listed in the list of animals. You guys have yourself stated that it's confirmed but it's not there. I'm not an actual member of wikipedia so I'm not going to try and edit the page but I think that one of you guys, who seem to regularly haunt this page for a chance to snipe at each other, should.

It's NOT confirmed! Dora Nichov 02:30, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

And we don't "haunt this page for a chance to snipe at each other", we patrol this page in case dumb vandals like the infamous Komodo Lover come along. Dora Nichov 02:31, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

The dodo and smilodon are confirmed by the box art why not the mammoth? When I say "you guys have yourself stated that it's confirmed" I'm going by The Helper S's post under Problem with Confirmed Mammoth, which you didn't have a problem with. If I'm wrong don't change it but you can't deny that there is a source, except for the mouse that's on all the boxes there's never been an animal on the box that hasn't been in the game. Pentagram16 20:11, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

And you don't call this sniping: That's SOOOO annoying, YEAH!!, I can't beleive someone's requested a picture (if someone's not tuned in, it's not that big a deal), Yeah + Right (you responded twice to the same post, three days later, and no one had even said anything new), YES YES YES, Heck Yeah!, moronaters, THERE'S ALREADY A T-REX AVAILABLE!! Seriously, some people, Absolutely right!!!, READ THE DAMNED PRESS RELEASE (you guys could be civil you know), CP and CBFan are right, I have nothing more to say, Sign your blooming name properly, Stop acting so stupid and dumb and who knows what (the same goes for here), Sign your ruddy name properly!!, Eat your words. Press release, read it!, It's NOT confirmed! (ah my favourite, seeing as when The Helper S said it you didn't disagree). This just isn't the greatest example of civility, a little common courtesy isn't going to kill you, and posts that are only one or two words long are just a waste of eletricity and space. Pentagram16 20:11, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

P.S.: And before you say, well you're not being civil either (or being a hypocrite), just don't

Sigh... How do we know the elephantid isn't a mastodon (which IS confirmed), huh? And at the time I agreed, we THOUGHT the mammoth would be in the EXP but now it's probably the mastodon. Plus "YES YES YES" isn't even uncivil. And just stop trying to be an admin, Pentagram16! Either ignore us or stop being so sensitive. "Absolutely right!!!", "It's NOT confirmed!", etc aren't really uncivil either. Dora Nichov 00:41, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Okay, maybe I didn't start on the right foot with my spiel of uncivility so I'll just forget about it. But you still aren't acknowledging the box. 70.77.12.103 01:56, 4 July 2007 (UTC) (Oops I wasn't sighned in then, sorry) Pentagram16 15:03, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

I've already said: how do you know it's not a mastodon? You can't be 100% sure it's a mammoth. Dora Nichov 03:42, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

I know this will sound fairly sketchy but you can tell it isn't a mastodon by the tusks. Mastodons did look almost identical to mammoths but their tusks were almost completely horizontal while mammoth tusks had a strong curvature to them, like the tusks you can see on the box. I found this out on this page Mastodon. Pentagram16 14:56, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Now that I think about it this might also apply to the Mammoth/Mastodon Statue/Skeleton, I've never actually seen the video (it seems I don't have the proper version of flash and when I try to download it, it doesn't work). Pentagram16 15:00, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

I also think that the box art should be removed as one of the reasons that the mastodon is confirmed, seeing as we're having this controversy over whether or not it is a mammoth or a mastodon. Pentagram16 15:06, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

You have a point. The mastodon is confirmed while the mammoth is not, and although you might argue about the tusks ZT2 has been known to be wrong at times... Dora Nichov 01:14, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

What do you mean it's been wrong before? I know I probably sound totally dense. Pentagram16 01:16, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

See here. Dora Nichov 03:34, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but that page is hopelessly inaccurate, it'll need adjusting. Whoever put it together has clearly never played ZT2 at all. 212.219.92.45 15:02, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Okay, very true. So what if we took this in a totally different direction? Do you think we could make a semi-confirmed list, as in confirmations that are under scrutiny? Or would that just be too confusing? It would still need reasons for confirmation, verifiable reasons, and would of course need strict monitoring against vandals (from what I've read on this page coug, cough, Bunny Beater/Komodo Lover/Black Rhino Ranger/Womcat/Snakezilla, cough). Pentagram16 04:06, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Maybe we should set it aside for now, as we can't be 100% sure. Dora Nichov 04:18, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

I spotted a few differences between the mammoth and mastodon

Who posted this? 70.77.12.103 21:49, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Why is the mammoth in the same box as the mastodon? The mastodon was confirmed by the press release, so there isn't debate that there is a mastodon. Yet the mammoth is there to, and if its there at all it should be in a different box, we know there's a mastodon. Pentagram16 15:19, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Never Mind. 70.77.12.103 21:48, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Random Wonderings
Random Wondering 1: Do you think there will be any Pre-mezozoic animals, arthropleura, dimetrodon and the like? Random Wondering 2(which is even more useless): Do you think there will be any extinct ambient animals in the new EA maps, assuming there are any? Pentagram16 15:09, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Only one answer to both: "probably". Dora Nichov 00:13, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
 * No, "I doubt it". The second one, 99.9% sure no. 1st, possible. This is an enclycopedia, not a forum. So if you want to help us improve the article, post your views. If you want to discuss the expansion itself, go to some Zoo Tycoon fansite or forum, or go to User talk:Cuddly Panda/Non wikipedia talk. --Cuddly Panda 07:56, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

In my defense I did say that they were useless. And the page is still screwed, what happened to it (I don't know how to fix it, I'd probably delete the thing)?

Sorry
I didn't mean to screw up the wikitable, i was trying to get rid of some Moronation. (Some guy said there was a Europe Lion and a Mammoth.)

Please forgive me. Dinoman96 12:02, 6 July 2007

So why are the lion and the mammoth still there? Pentagram16 15:16, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

I don't know, and i'm not touching a wikitable again, so can anyone delete that, please? Dinoman96 16:39, 6 July 2007

Before the release was released
You use to comfirm the mammoth before the screenshots and release were released. Now all of you now think that the mastodon is in the box art but it is actually a mammoth. Nerd with tests 15:35, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Prove it. We thought it was a mammoth but now it's more likely a mastodon. Dora Nichov 01:02, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Looks more like a mammoth to me. Nerd with tests 02:06, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

So? Just because it looks like one does that mean it IS one? Dora Nichov 02:47, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I actually agree with Nerd with tests. --Cuddly Panda 07:57, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

I agree it looks more like a mammoth, but as we all know, ZT2 has been shown to be wrong at times... Dora Nichov 11:22, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Like I've said before I think that it's a mammoth too, but I also agree with Dora that we can't be sure. See, this is why I proposed "semi-confirmation". Pentagram16 21:17, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Why is the Table Messed?
What happened to the table it is absolutely screwed up. Pentagram16 01:17, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Because some dumbass vandal screwed it up. Damn them. I'm putting a request to have this semi-protected. --Cuddly Panda 07:59, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Italics
Please only add italics to scientific names. 'Mammoth' and 'Dodo' are not a scientific names and so do not need to be italicated. 'Smilodon' and 'Tyrannosaurus rex' do. --Cuddly Panda 08:09, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Correct. Dora Nichov 09:03, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

While we're on the subject of scientific things, is there only one kind of dodo? I looked at the dodo page on wikipedia quickly but didn't really get a definitive answer. Pentagram16 01:37, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm just wondering for the sake of being more precise (if possible). Pentagram16 01:37, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

There's only one "dodo", but there are similar species like the white dodo and the solitare. The EA one is definitely the regular dodo. Dora Nichov 02:31, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Untrue. There is the normal dodo from Mauritaus, and another species called the Indian dodo that became extinct centuries before the other. It lived in India. - Cuddly Panda (talk · contribs) review me! 01:32, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Um... that was pretty much what I said. There are similar species, but EA's is the regular species. Dora Nichov 02:43, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Semi-protection (continued)
I requested page protection. I got it. The problem is, it's full protection. Now no one can edit it. Pooh! Well, never mind. No more monorators. It will last until August 10. --Cuddly Panda 13:47, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Good for you anyway! Dora Nichov 01:05, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Entertainer
When it says that the entertainer is either a smilodon or santa or whatever, is this meaning that we're not sure what exactly its dressed as? Pentagram16 01:46, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Correct. Dora Nichov 03:04, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that is correct. Look at the video in detail and see for yourself. Everyone sees something different. --&lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; &lt;font face=Verdana color=F0F8FF&gt;&#91;&#91;User:Cuddly Panda&#124;Cuddly&lt;/font&gt; Panda &#91;&#91;Image:Cuddly Panda Films Logo v2 (jpg).JPG&#124;30px]] &lt;small&gt;&#91;&#91;User talk:Cuddly Panda&#124;Blab]] &lt;sup&gt;(&#91;&#91;User talk:Cuddly Panda/Non Wikipedia talk&#124;Non-wiki]])&lt;/sup&gt;]] 09:00, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

I can't really see much when I look at the video, I see the entertainer do the backflip, but it's too dark to see what they really look like on my computer. Is it so dark for everyone? 70.77.12.103 15:00, 11 July 2007 (UTC) Yeah it is kinda dark for me and I thought it was dressed as a red panda or a red Mickey Mouse.Daman1234 15:07, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Mickey is copyrighted and isn't red. Santa. - Cuddly Panda (talk · contribs) review me! 01:36, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

It could be. But i don't see what that has anything to do with Prehistory. I think it's a Tiger. 64.118.238.102 17:31, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

New Screenshots Found
Hey, I just found a link on Zoo Admin on Vacation which had new screens of EA since E3 was around. Care to look at the link below? It looks like a giant ground sloth and a pic of the tranquilizer feature in action. Link Check them out....The Helper S 17:09, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

There's more than just a Megatherium (sloth). I think that the other animals in the first shot might be our mastodon, and there's some kind of weird rock-type things, the second one has some kind of pterosaur skeleton, and a prehistoric educator podium (I'm guessing), the third one seems to show what is probably the fossil digging, and the fourth is the tranquilizing (and who wants to bet that building that's shaped like a dna strand is the research lab?) So since the page is protected could we get an administrator to add this stuff? I don't get how to. Pentagram16 17:53, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

I was looking at the shots again and noticed something weird, the sloth is in a grassland exhibit in the first pic, yet it's in a scrub exhibit in the next. Pentagram16 20:00, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, we need an update. Dora Nichov 02:31, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Wow, look at this: Yup, there's Dimetrodon and Ankylosaurus!

PS: EA stuff is near the end... at 2:04 to 2:11 Dora Nichov 02:47, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

And if you see here you can see there's a Stegosaurus! Dora Nichov 03:27, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Just saw the video, it looks pretty cool...and seriously this needs an update, as stated before. Hopefully an admin can help us on this btw Dora Nichov, where'd you find the updated boxart including the stegosaurus? The Helper S 06:16, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Funny how we needed this locked ages ago, and now when we need it unlocked we can't! ----- &#91;&#91;User:Cuddly Panda&#124;&lt;font face=Verdana color=F0F8FF&gt;Cuddly&lt;/font&gt; Panda &lt;small&gt;&#91;&#91;User talk:Cuddly Panda&#124;Blab]] &lt;sup&gt;(&#91;&#91;User talk:Cuddly Panda/Non Wikipedia talk&#124;Non-wiki]])&lt;/sup&gt; &#124; &#91;&#91;Special:Contributions/Cuddly Panda&#124;Contribs]] &#124;]] 07:28, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Wow search zoo tycoon 2 extinct on youtube and you get a film about games for windows with mamoths, smilidons, ankylosourus and raptor like dinisours.
 * In case you haven't noticed, idiot, that is written above. --&lt;html&gt;--- &#91;&#91;User:Cuddly Panda&#124;&lt;font face=Verdana color=F0F8FF&gt;Cuddly&lt;/font&gt; Panda &lt;small&gt;&#91;&#91;User talk:Cuddly Panda&#124;Blab]] &lt;sup&gt;(&#91;&#91;User talk:Cuddly Panda/Non Wikipedia talk&#124;Non-wiki]])&lt;/sup&gt; &#124; &#91;&#91;Special:Contributions/Cuddly Panda&#124;Contribs]] &#124;&lt;/html&gt;]] 08:50, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I found the updated boxart at the same site the new downloads were found. Just go to "summary" and you'll find it. ;) And yeah, we REALLY need an update to add the Megatherium, Stegosaurus, Ankylosaurus and Dimetrodon. Yup, funny how we jsut protected it, then now we need un-protection. Dora Nichov 08:53, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Anyway, it's unprotected now, who will add them? (I'm not good at editing wikitables). Dora Nichov 14:51, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

They're on there, I still didn't know what the Megatherium's proper biome was though. Pentagram16 15:18, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Well it's great to hear that the newly revealed were added, but do you think we should put the updated boxart on the wiki page, or just keep it as-is until the official Zoo Tycoon site updates with the boxart themselves (as believed to do so, since they've done this previously with other expansions)? The Helper S 18:01, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

When I saw the Mastodon: I saw his tusks were straight. I told you they would be straight so mthe mammoth is comfined in the boxart. Komodo lover 2 02:08, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Wrong. You still can't confirm a thing. Dora Nichov 02:51, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

But I definitly saw the mastodons tusks quite straight. Komodo lover 2 02:56, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

You still can't say there's a mammoth. Dora Nichov 02:57, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

You just don't get it, There will be a mammoth in the game, I just know there will. That mastodon in the video has straight tusks, and in the boxart it's not a mastodon. the game is right and the box art is wrong so I win, It's a mammoth. Komodo lover 2 03:11, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

"I just know there will"!? What a lousy excuse. Shut up Komodo Lover. Dora Nichov 03:22, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Edit protected
An editor has marked this page as requiring an edit. Please position the template in the section where the request is made, adjacent to the request. (In other words, what do you want doing?). Thanks ck lostsword•T•C 13:11, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Shouldn't it be
Shouldn't it be that the smilodon should live in scrub forests like I see in walking with beasts. Komodo lover 2 01:42, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

There's more than one kind of smilodon (smilodon populator, smilodon floridus, smilodon calirfornicus etc.). Pentagram16 01:51, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

You know in walking with beasts, A megatherium can be seen in the scrub forests so Its proper biome is Scrub. Komodo lover 2 02:11, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

So? Just because it's scrub in real life doesn't mean it's scrub in the game! Dora Nichov 02:50, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
 * How come you complain then? - Cuddly Panda (talk · contribs) 13:37, 13 July 2007 (UTC)::Huh? Dora Nichov 00:29, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Just because it's biome in real life is scrub, doesn't mean it won't mind living in a grassland.Ornithomimus 13:06, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Megatherium isn't even in scrub in walking with beasts. Look at the picture on this page,, does that look like scrub to you? Pentagram16 14:21, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, that's grassland. I've another WWB pic in a book that shows it in savannah. Dora Nichov 00:29, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah I've read that to, although I'm not sure if that isn't just dried out grassland. Pentagram16 00:55, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Possible. In any case, it's some sort of "plain". Dora Nichov 03:26, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

But the narator said scrub forest. 58.71.168.171 01:05, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

And? Who says an animal could only survive in one biome? Dora Nichov 13:11, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah. In the game known as Zoo Tycoon 2, there are many things called compatible biomes. Like, the Anklyosaurus, it is shown in wetlands, but that's probably not it's real biome. GrimpyNZ 18:24, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

I thought there was going to be saber toothed cats in south america, 1000000 years ago. Gigatron 20:58, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Lockup
I think we're done, this can be relocked now. - Cuddly Panda (talk · contribs) 13:37, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Dimetrodon?
Could our "dimetrodon" actually be an edaphosaurus? They look really similar and you can't really tell in the video. Pentagram16 17:16, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

-Look closely...there's meat in the exhibit. That's the one key difference between the two. Unless it's a mixed exhibit, of course. CBFan 17:25, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

I forgot one was herbivorous. Pentagram16 17:56, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, there's meat, so it's Dimetrodon. 00:28, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I'd add that note in anyway. - Cuddly Panda (talk · contribs) 00:55, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Done. I still think it's a Dimetrodon, but added Edaphosaurus similarities. Dora Nichov 03:26, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

T-rex, Tyrannosaurus or Tyrannosaurus rex?
You know in a screen shot with the t-rex, a Tyrannosaurus rex word can be seen on the dart when you aim the trex so you shold add in Tyrannosaurus rex and a dodo was also comfirned in the same screenshot on the top note. Rhinoceratops 07:21, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

We KNOW the Dodo is confirmed, we knew it from the moment we saw the boxart. We've already added Tyrannosaurus as well. They wouldn't do two of the same animal. You're Komodo Lover, you'll be reported. CBFan 09:22, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

You know in one of the screenshots, a row of dinosaur fences from Dino Danger can be seen. Rhinoceratops 10:10, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

I just reported you as a sockpuppet. Good bye. Dora Nichov 13:31, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
 * And they're completely new fences, Komodo Lover. - Cuddly Panda (talk · contribs) 13:43, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Should we add those in and replace tyrannosaurus to tyrannosaurus rex because that's what said in Dino Danger. 58.71.168.171 01:14, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

And? Dora Nichov 01:44, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Baby Tyrannosaur
The so-called 'baby' Tyrannosaurus in the second video I beleive is a fully grown male. - Cuddly Panda (talk · contribs) 13:47, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

I don't think so, going by the height of the people in the shots it isn't. Because if you look in the second video the people seem to come up to something like its shoulder while in the tranquilizing screenshot the person only comes up to its knee (I do realize its a kid but still). And how do you know its a male? Pentagram16 13:56, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
 * In the Dino Danger Pack the male was green, and much smaller than the female. Plus, we're talking about a taller guy and shorter kid. Go figure. - Cuddly Panda (talk · contribs) 00:25, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Sorry to burst your bubble, the Male T-rex was small, but it wasn't that small. Dinoman96 00:40, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

I was unblocked. Yay! Now I can point out that I don't have the DD pack so I didn't know and that the "baby" is fully rearing up and the adult comes to its shoulder, while the kid is up to the other t-rex's knee when it's kind of crouching so even if an adult were twice the kids size (which is kind of overreaching) they would only come up to about that t-rex's hip if it were rearing up. Pentagram16 19:59, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

New Information
Zoo Tycoon 2: Extinct Animals Company Line Company Line -- This Content Was Not Created By GameSpot Posted Jul 11, 2007 3:45 pm PT "Zoo Tycoon 2: Extinct Animals," the biggest expansion pack to date for the hugely popular, award-winning "Zoo Tycoon 2," lets gamers bring animals that once roamed the Earth back to life. With new challenges and more than 30 new animals, players can create environments the creatures once lived in and learn about times that date back to the Ice Age.

Features:

Impressive never-before-seen animals. "Zoo Tycoon 2: Extinct Animals" features more than 30 new animals, ranging from the adorable dodo bird to the dangerous saber-toothed cat, and more than 10 new dinosaurs, such as the T. rex and stegosaurus, for the ultimate zoo experience. New gameplay. With exciting new ways to play, "Zoo Tycoon 2: Extinct Animals" challenges players to recover escaped dinosaurs, with the new first-person tranquilizer mode. Players can also search for hidden fossils around the zoo, build animal fossils and create new extinct animals in the Extinct Research Lab. A whole new look. Aspiring paleontologists can now customize their zoos with new maps and extinct-themed buildings such as the Extinct Research Lab, Fossil Education Center and Cave Painting Hall. Other extinct-themed objects are new foliage, glaciers, cavemen and a brachiosaurus slide for kids. New characters. Paleontologists are available to help gamers look for fossils, while entertainers dress in costumes, perform shows and keep guests happy. Interactive educational entertainment. Children and parents can broaden their knowledge of the animal kingdom to improve their zookeeping skills. The exclusive Zoopedia, with excerpts from Encarta, as first introduced in "Zoo Tycoon 2," provides interesting facts, allowing gamers to uncover each animal's specific dietary and habitat needs. Easy to learn and play. "Zoo Tycoon 2: Extinct Animals" seamlessly integrates with "Zoo Tycoon 2" so gamers can play immediately. An interactive tutorial teaches players how to build and manage the ultimate zoo. Zoomanj 18:46, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Old news. - Cuddly Panda (talk · contribs) 00:41, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Soory Cuddly the cave painting hall, brachiosaurus slide,glaciers and fossil education centre was not on the page. Should we add? Reply Cuddly please. - Zoomanj 06:35, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes. And don't called me Cuddly. Cudddly Panda, CP or just Panda. but not Cuddly. And you kinda bug me to do stuff, too.- Cuddly Panda (talk · contribs) 01:52, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

I wont edit the page, only ask a question or two on disscusin. Trying to help you guys.Zoomanj 05:54, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

What?
What the heck happened to the pictures!? 64.118.238.102 19:24, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Oh Wait, hafe of my internet is down. 64.118.238.102 19:28, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Beta test - not real don't panic
I have searched for the beta test for extinct and am almost there. I have to waite a day or two to see if I can get my hands on it. I will keep you guys posted and tell you how to get it if I can.Zoomanj 21:04, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Is there really a beta test? Or are you just lying? Cuddly Panda, what do you think? Dinoman96 00:39, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Why do you want my opinion? I think he's lying. Give me a link and I'll beleive. He's probably trying to get attention or try to be 'cool' by lying. It's happened on other sites with other games, and will again. I'm checking ZT.com as I spe...type. - Cuddly Panda (talk · contribs) 01:35, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

I think he's lying. Dora Nichov 01:43, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

I am not saying I have it I am just saying im looking. Microsoft.com will email me soon.

I sent this to the support page on the microsoft webpage:

Dear Microsoft I am enquiring about the game zoo tycoon 2 extinct animals. Will you ever offer beta tests. I would apritiate a yes or no answer.

They replied:

Hello, Thank you for contacting Microsoft Online Customer Service. I understand that you would like to know if you could beta test the Zoo Tycoon 2 Extinct Animals. I am currently coordinating with the appropriate Microsoft team regarding your concern. As soon as I can obtain additional information, I will promptly reply to your message. Typically, we hear from them in 24 to 72 hours, but it all depends on the complexity of the issue. Thank you, Leonard Microsoft Online Customer Service Representative

P.S sorry I annoyed anyone, just trying to help:).Zoomanj 05:43, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
 * So you em@iled Microsoft to ask if you could BETA test a game? Case closed. They'll say no. - Cuddly Panda (talk · contribs) 07:28, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Yes I am a bit stupid but I only want to know if they are doing a beta test. It would be better if one of the makers of this article did the test, then the info can be put on wiki.Zoomanj 08:51, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Looks like no. Irrelevant. Dora Nichov 11:21, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I created this article. Even if someone did get a BETA test job, it would be illegal to put the contents on this page. You would be breaking the law. Blue Fang will not let you test just for asking. Just wait. - Cuddly Panda (talk · contribs) review me! 05:21, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Zoo Admin
Zoo Admin is back. here's the internet address .Patrickstar2 13:27, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Nothing. Says 404 error. Dora Nichov 13:30, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Oh, wait, I fixed it for you. But that's the old ZA. There's nothing there. The new ZA is the one we need, but it's down. Dora Nichov 13:32, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Oh sorry I didn't know it was empty. but I'll tell you when it's not empty anymore.-Patrickstar2 12:07, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale
For all game screenshots, boxarts and banners, add the Non-free media rationale template to the image and fill in the details. I have done some of them, you guys can do the rest. And the next comment should always have : before the comment, to seperate it. - Cuddly Panda (talk · contribs) review me! 02:34, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Hmmmm....
I've been thinking, is the Dimetrodon on of the Twelve Dinosaurs in the game? Well, IMO, Dimetrodon is not really a Dinosaur, but it's also not a Recently or an Ice Age creature. Dinoman96 15:07, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Animals did exist before the Dinosaurs, you know. CBFan 19:48, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

That's true. Paleozoic! Dora Nichov 00:35, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

I know. But i thought it was just Ice age animals and Dinosaurs in the game. 64.118.238.102 01:17, 20 July 2007 (UTC) (I'm Dinoman, forgot that i wasn't logged in.)

Well, the dodo is neither. Dora Nichov 02:18, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Who said it was just ice age and dinosaurs anyway. Along with the dodo fact, the game is just called extinct animals, so any extinct animals could be in it. Pentagram16 17:47, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Right. Dora Nichov 00:32, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

I've also been thinking, If the box art said over 30 animals and the release said more than a dozen dinosaurus, Should the mean EA has 31 or more animals including 13 or more dinosaurs. Gigatron 16:47, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Unlock this please
Can any of you please unlock this page because I wanted to add in something, the * means its new

Can I please add them in. 202.151.193.22 12:56, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Half of that has already been added. Why you want to add something that has already been added is beyond me. Also, I'd like to point out that if you post "It could be this, it could be that", thats called "Vandalising". We're lucky that the thread is blocked against Komodo Lover as it is. Also, the Pygmy Mammoth can not be a baby mammoth for two reasons...it has tusks (and baby mammoths did not have them) and there are two different models (male and female).

Zoo Tycoon 2 has made mistakes before, just because baby mammoths didn't have them in real life doesn't mean they will in the game. And putting a note in that it's possible that it isn't what we think it is isn't vandalism when we're talking about an upcoming game that hasn't been released, we cannot be sure. We have a note that the dimetrodon could be an edaphosaurus, that isn't vandalism, why not say that it could be a baby mammoth. I say put it in. Pentagram16 00:59, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Because we KNOW it can't be a baby mammoth...it has tusks. Yes, we know that "ZT2 has made mistakes before", but did any of THEIR baby elephants have tusks? Either species? No. Not even the baby mammoth in ZT1 had tusks. Thereby, it is obviously NOT a baby mammoth. CBFan 07:49, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

You're just being unreasonable, and stubborn. We cannot be sure. Pentagram16 20:56, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

We cannot be sure that the "Woolly" Mammoth IS a Woolly Mammoth, but we do. In this case, however, we have proof. YOU find a baby Elephant (about the same age as the ZT2 ones) with tusks, THEN come and speak to me. It is NOT a baby Mammoth, and ZT1 is proof of that. CBFan 21:02, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

You are being absolutely rididiculous, you have a horrible argument. We are not talking about elephants, we are talking about the possibility that it is a mammoth or a mastodon which would really make more sense seeing as it looks more like the mastodon. And ZT1 is proof of nothing the EA smilodon differs from that of ZT1, why not other things? Pentagram16 21:09, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

No, you are just being stupid. You clearly are not reading a single thing I have written. The baby Elephant (of both species) in ZT2 does not have tusks, so it is highly unlikely that the baby Mastodon/Mammoth does have tusks. I mean, seriously...how could a female animal give birth to a baby with tusks!? The one in the picture does, so that makes being a baby next to impossible. Besides, the Elephant doesn't even look hairy. And what does the Smilodon have to do with anything? It isn't an Elephant, and the cubs have not been seen yet. CBFan 21:55, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

You are treating this like a joke, Wikipedia deserves better that to have such narrow-minded users. And obviously you aren't reading what I'm saying, I mentioned the smilodon to disprove your former argument about ZT1. And your argument about a mother not being able to conceive a child with tusks is useless, we cannot be sure. So stop being thick headed and face the common sense. Pentagram16 22:37, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

I AM using common sense...you're the one who thinks it possible that a baby elephant would have tusks. The Smilodon has nothing to do with the discussion, especially as we have yet to see the cubs. The elephant has tusks and it does not look hairy at all. Will you stop posting and just accept the facts. PROVE that it IS a baby Mammoth or Mastodon, THEN we'll listen. I have posted my proof, you've just insisted it is because you say so. That's something Komodo Lover would do. CBFan 14:48, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Oh, my god. You are some ten year old idiot who decided they know everything and is now tirading around wikipedia. Need I point out that you have been blocked and warned of being blocked for exactly this kind of behaviour. I am not arguing proof, I am arguing a lack of proof. I understand that there is no proof to say it is a baby mammoth/mastodon, but the evidence to the contrary is worthless. It does not matter that in real life a mammoth/mastodon couldn't give birth to a baby with tusks, we are talking about a video game, it is possible that it is a baby mammoth/mastodon. We would not be saying, this is a baby mammoth/mastodon, we would be saying that it is possible that we are mistaken about the content of a photograph that we can't fully confirm due to the fact that we are merely interpreting the image, it isn't entirely possible to prove either way. I do agree it seems more likely that it is a pygmy mammoth (if you measure the ratio between the megatherium and the elephantid creature in the picture it's just right for a pygmy mammoth) but I also find it unlikely that three such similar creatures (mammoth, mastodon and pygmy mammoth) would all be released in one expansion. Pentagram16 16:32, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

P.S.: I am not like Komodo Lover just because you're too stupid to accept that we aren't certain.

Please do note, you are the only person actively insulting someone here. Do you seriously think I'm willing to listen to you if you call me "A 10 year old idiot"? I have posted proof of it not being a baby Mammoth/Mastodon, several times. You have screamed "NO, IT DOESN'T COUNT, YOU IDIOT!", yet you have provided no evidence on the contary of this. All you've done is screamed "IT IS A BABY MAMMOTH/MASTODON BECAUSE I SAY SO!! YOU'RE WRONG, I'M RIGHT!! YOU'RE AN IDIOT!!" I am not willing to listen to you when you are speaking out of your age line. I have given MY side of the argument (the creature has tusks, and does not look very hairy), you have yet to give me yours. All you've done so far is scream and insult me. All that we are not certain about is what it actually is. Why don't you go and buttock the members of Zoo Admin, THEY agree that it is not a baby Mammoth/Mastodon.

P.S. I have not been blocked or warned of being blocked for this kind of behaviour before, I was blocked because of 3RR's (which was not entirely my fault), something we are not doing. So that means you're screaming, insulting me and telling lies about me. You need to calm down.

P.P.S. Your comment about three Elephantids is nothing new, and not impossible. After all, we have two giraffes and two turtles. CBFan 17:25, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

I am only insulting you because you aren't listening and I am becoming increasingly exasperated. I agree, it looks like a pygmy mammoth. But this is a digitally rendered image, not an actual photograph of something that actually exists. Therefore we are interpreting an image rendered by an animator. As it to some degree resembles a number of things, we are not properly authorized to definitively state what the animator who has rendered this digital image intended that which we are interpreting to be. Scientific fact is to some degree irrelevant due to the fact that this image is digitally rendered. Okay, did I spell my argument out well enough for you? Or are you just going to dismiss what I've been saying all along, again. Pentagram16 16:38, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

P.S.: I also realize there is more than one of a number of similar animals, however in all but the case of the turtle they are from different expansions.

...OK, that makes no sense whatsoever. All your little thingie is saying is that we don't know whether or not it is a Dwarf Elephant or a Pygmy Mammoth...which is true. Otherwise, you're still missing the point completely. However, I am still not screaming at you or insulting you. Why you seem to think I am the only person who thinks that it is a different species is beyond me, personally. P.S.: What is with doing the PS's after the sig? CBFan 17:22, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Okay, first off, who cares how I put my PS? Second off, when did I ever say that I thought that you are the only person who thinks it's a different species? I've said numerous times that I think it looks more like a pygmy mammoth too: "I do agree it seems more likely that it is a pygmy mammoth (if you measure the ratio between the megatherium and the elephantid creature in the picture it's just right for a pygmy mammoth), I agree, it looks like a pygmy mammoth". But we are interpreting an image. This image bears resemblance to more than one thing. So we can't definitively say what this image is meant to depict. Therefore it is possible that this image is depicting a baby mammoth/mastodon, although it is much more likely a pygmy mammoth. So since it is possible that we are mistaken, despite the fact that it is (as I agree) much more likely to be a pygmy mammoth, we should note, that it is possible albeit unlikely that the confirmation method we are using is actually depicting something else. Pentagram16 20:00, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Got your message, and now that we've sussed things out, we'll leave this be. The best thing to do now is wait until BF give us information. Then we'll see what the elephantid is made of, so to speak. CBFan 18:28, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

BF? I know I probably sound totally dense. Pentagram16 20:21, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Blue Fang. The creator of the ZT series, and everything to do with it. CBFan 20:44, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Right. Pentagram16 00:02, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

New Staff
In the game there is an entertainer that from what I read no one knows what its costume is? So my question is what is it, a santa entertainer, a red panda entertainer, or something else???

We don't really know, it's kind of dark in the video that shows it. At least, I can't discern anything. Pentagram16 02:06, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Neither can I, it's not dark, but it's too blurry. Dora Nichov 05:45, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Well, it's dark for me (maybe it's my computer). But the point is we still can't see anything. We'll update it as soon as we have a proper source. Pentagram16 16:44, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Dido -Patrickstar2 04:48, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Buildings etc.
Did we take out the buildings/scenery and whatever else for a reason? Or was it a vandal? Or is my computer just wonky? Pentagram16 16:46, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

It's certainly not your computer being wonky. CBFan 18:27, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * It was me. Non-notable. See the wikipedia policies. I'm Cuddly P on holiday.

cave men
does anyone think that the cave men could be one of the animals released in the pack.ironman33 Ironman33 20:50, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Unlikely. Dora Nichov 10:59, 30 July 2007 (UTC) There is a possiblity even though that would rock if it is.Daman1234 14:03, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

They would be hard to contain because of there intelligence,but that would be fun trying to contain them.Ironman33 15:35, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Unless there will be a primate fence in the game that no primate can get out of.Daman1234 18:06, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

possibly,but an eletric or high concrete wall would be more appropriate.(what i meant by hard to control was the fact they could start fires and sharpen sticks).Ironman33 20:03, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

There can be a fire-proof fences that no fire can touche so that the cavemen get burnt for trying and can't get out if they climb.Daman1234 15:41, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

The cavemen are probably just the staff of some of the new prehistoric themed buildings. For example, the staff member in front of the prehistoric gift cart looks like a caveman. Pentagram16 20:30, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

If they were one of the animals released in the pack it would be kind of creepy, do to the fact that they’re humans to. Dinoman96 11:36, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

it would be scary but if you could contain them they could be educational for your guests Ironman33 17:47, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

I still think it's the staff, because we know there are cavemen staff. It would be seriously strange to have cavemen in cages as well as acting as staff members. Pentagram16 17:49, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

they could be actors that put on plays to entertain your guests. Ironman33 18:06, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, but that is just complete speculation, there's no evidence behind it. Pentagram16 21:09, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

yeah, i suppose so but its just a thought. Ironman33 11:10, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

They could be a staff member, who care for extinct animals.

Stop saying it could be this or that or the other thing, that is speculation. You need some kind of proof. Not "They could be". Pentagram16 03:14, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

thats true,no one has a clue Ironman33 14:12, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Dodo
Can it be possible that the Dodo bird could have both of the colors on the boxarts, one for the female and one for the male or both colors on both genders maybe????? Daman1234 14:14, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

its possible because other animals have variant skins,but it could also be young and adult variantsIronman33 15:30, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

It's more likely that the dodo was just updated, because there are a few key differences between the two sets of boxart: stegosaurus, egg that the dodo's on. Pentagram16 17:47, 31 July 2007 (UTC) I saw the new trailer and it is going to be blue.Daman1234 22:25, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

The yellow skin may be a varient. Or there could be sexual diformision (sp?) GrimpyNZ 18:09, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Spam
This is NOT a discussion forum for the game. Its a discussion article for article improvement. So DON'T DISCUSS WISHLISTS OR GUESSSES HERE! If you must do it on Wiki, do it @ User talk:Cuddly Panda/Non Wikipedia talk. This was CP logged out on holiday.

Maybe
Could it be possible that Blue Fang Games made Dino Danger Pack as an experiment to see if people would want an extinct animals expansion pack???Daman1234 15:22, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Unless BF said that officially it's completely irrelevant. Pentagram16 16:39, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Agree. Dora Nichov 00:28, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Objects list
A list of animals is fair enough, but a list of buildings goes past WP:NOT. Do not re-add it. - Cuddly Panda (talk · contribs) review me! 09:20, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Pygmy mammoth?
That small mammoth could be a dwarf elephant? Gigatron 15:18, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * No. And stop spamming. - Cuddly Panda (talk · contribs) review me! 15:33, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

But it looks extacully like a dwark elephant, i looked in to a DK book and saw the picture and I had another look in the screen shots and it did not have hair and I only came here once. Gigatron 16:37, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

You are Komodo Lover. Go away. CBFan 10:53, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

I also think that is a dwarf elephant, can you replace the pygmy mammoth to dwarf elephant. 82.17.141.54 20:47, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

a note
I hope I got the animal list from " == unlock this please == " (in this talk page) right. - Patrickstar2 15:34, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

You added things to that? No, you spelled things wrong, messed the talk page up for a while, and where are you getting those animals from? Pentagram16 16:37, 12 August 2007 (UTC) Yeah is there another new video that no one has found yet???Daman1234 22:33, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

No, User:202.151.193.22 wrote it and got from somewhere not me. Patrickstar2 07:30, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Velociraptor
It is confirmed! You can see "You have uncovered a fosillised piece of the Velociraptor!" in infobox in the trailer.

where did you get this information Ironman33 14:10, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Someone on a fan site somehow made the infoboxes clear and found that message. Dora Nichov 12:48, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Is it one of the fansites we have listed? Pentagram16 16:03, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

I have posted the full list at Zoo Tycoon Volcano, Zoo Admin, Mysterious Map Marvels forums, and the official zoo tycoon forums. The new trailer includes showing a Brachiosaurus. GrimpyNZ 07:17, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Gigantopithecus
In the newest video, if paused when showing the dodos in their exhibit, you can see the Gigantopithecus. It is in trop. rainforest. GrimpyNZ 06:13, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Antarctic dinos?
Do any of you know any dinosaur species in antarctica I could add?

what does that have to do with the game Ironman33 21:33, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

So far no Antarctic dinosaur is known to be in the game. Dora Nichov 00:23, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

??

I'm not sure but in Walking with dinosaurs, the dinosaurs that live in Antartica are Leananllyasaura (spell it please), dwarf allosaur, koolusuchus and muttaburrasaurus

Koolasuchus is not even a dinosaur, besides none of those are confirmed. Dora Nichov 12:29, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Quagga
I Heard rummors of the quagga being on the animal list. The quagga is a zebra like creature that lives in the savannas of africa. Later on in life the quagga was hunted to extinction by humans. do any of youknow about this rumur?!

No, the quagga is not confirmed. Dora Nichov 07:35, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

yes it is not confirmed and there is a screenshot read Article —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.218.9.53 (talk) 23:51, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

When I posted that it wasn't confirmed, silly. Dora Nichov 02:40, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Sivatherium
Who put it on that list?? It says there is a new screenshot, but I cant find it...

It's true. Dora Nichov 07:35, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Could you please give a link to the screenshot? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)

It's True? Where's this picture? Dinoman96 14:50, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

It is on the Games For Windows site. GrimpyNZ 16:48, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Hey can some one give me the link to the video where it shows the stegosaur in Tropical Rainforest?Dinomaster30 02:09, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Dora Nichov's right, here is the link to the photo. Dinomaster30, the video with the stegosaur is the main trailer on the article (well I'm pretty sure, I've seen that trailer only once) THS | (Talk) 02:35, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks but ive already watched every trailer on the page and couldent find it.Dinomaster30 12:26, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Uh...I think you got Confused with the Kentrosaurus. Dinoman96 18:17, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

No I wasn't confused, I had just seen on the list where it said that the stegosaur was in Trop. Rainforest and was just makeing sure that it was in that biome. I'll delete it then.Dinomaster30 19:49, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Don't delete it. One of the messages on the infobar in the trailer is "Stegosaurus 1 has grown from young to adult" —The preceding unsigned comment was added by GrimpyNZ (talk • contribs).

I ment just change the biome, plus why would i delete the stegosaur? after all It's on the box art.Dinomaster30 21:49, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Mammoth
What happened to the Wooly Mammoth in the confirmed list???Daman1234 14:01, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Thats what i thought,but it might be because the mastadon is the mammoth Ironman33 15:26, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I think it's real. Put it back. - Cuddly Panda (talk · contribs) review me! 01:29, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

There is no proof of that the mammoth is in the game, you all win. 84.13.179.46 15:26, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Deinonychus
Is it true? Please someone tell me where is the screenshot? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)

The screenshots can be found at this link: GrimpyNZ 17:13, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Whats going on with the wikipedia page? The bottom part of the page is all messed up, can someone please fix it

Screenshots
where are the screenshots for the the last two animals?68.145.77.173 22:56, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Keith from Blue Fang is doing weekly updates every Wednesday for EA on Zoo Admin, the thread for it can be found here. THS | (Talk) 23:05, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Deinusuchus
The deinusuchus in the screenshot might only be a baby because its only as big as the nile crocodile Ironman33 19:16, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

ya thats what I thought to because it is like half the size it should be compared to a little girl or it could be like the whale shark witch grows twice its length over time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brachioman (talk • contribs) 19:43, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

It's got spikes on it, That looks weird, It might be a different croc because that can't be a deinosuchus. 87.113.195.150 17:03, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Which proves you haven't read anything BF have posted for us. It IS a Deinosuchus, and we have proof of it. CBFan 14:12, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Two new dinosaurs in trailer
I saw two extra dinosaurs not far away for the kentrosaurus and styrachosaurus scene, one is black and might be the velociraptor and the other is blue and pur[le and it had a bone head so it might be the Pachycephalosaurus. honestly, I definetly saw them they were at the other side of the river. Just pause the video in the beggining of the part with the styrachosaurus and kentrosaurus and look at the other side of the river and you will see two new dinosaurs. Gigatron 20:30, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

If it's might, take it as a no. Dora Nichov 12:12, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

animals
Let's wait untill the expasion pack is released, don't edit the animal section again. Gigatron 11:01, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

The information exists. It's better this way. Eriorguez 12:24, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Alpine Animals?
So far i have seen no animals in the list that are alpine biome. where are the extinct alpine animals? please just give me a list of prehistoric anlpine animals that could possibly be in the game.Thank you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.218.9.53 (talk) 22:16, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

The thing is, there isn't sedimentation in mountains to bury the remains, so it's rare to find a fossil of an alpine animal. Some scientists belive Pachycephalosaurs were alpine animals, but it's not absolute.Eriorguez 17:12, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Even so there were alpine animals not just dinos.In the Jurassic period in china the mountains were snow covered and cold for most dinosaurs which lived in the warm dense forests surrounding them. On the mountain slopes there was primative mamals but there was something else that lived there.There were fossils of a dinosaur up in one of the mountain riverbeds the dinosaur was completly built for climbing on rocky or ridged areas and was said to possibly have the ability to surrvive the cold tempertures of the alpine and even walk on snow! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.218.9.53 (talk) 21:06, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

I found the name of your dinosaur! it was called Xiaosaurus and was supposidly lived on slopes and peaks of the mountain range.it was a meating one two and would also probbly walked on snow.i found one of my own to. i do not know the name of it yet but i will find it. it lived in the Alps and was small and meat eating and lived on the brushy areas of the alps.

Xiaosaurus was an herbivore... Dora Nichov 01:24, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Sorry my mistake. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.218.9.53 (talk) 23:47, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

can someone find the name of the alp dinosaurs? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.218.9.53 (talk) 00:28, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

i just wat to know this one thing what are the possible alpine animals

Who says there HAVE to be alpine animals? CBFan 14:35, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

There doesen't have to be i'm just saying it would be cool if they had alpine dinosaurs or something. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.218.9.53 (talk) 22:51, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Animals
I don't get it will this game have 30 Animals or over 30 Animals because in the article it says with a total of 30 animals on the box it says over 30 Animals. I'm confused.68.145.77.173 04:01, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

They always say "Over" in the title description, and a lot of the time, the number after the over IS the exact answer. Of course, we won't know for sure until the game comes out. One thing that can be said with confidence is that there will be AT LEAST 30 animals. CBFan 16:22, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Animal names
In future, display animal names as they are in-game. If it is called bush-antlered deer, write it as bush antlered deer. - Cuddly Panda (talk · contribs) review me! 09:28, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, Even change the smilodon to saber tooth cat and tyranosaurus to tyrannosaurus rex —Preceding unsigned comment added by White rhino ranger (talk • contribs) 09:03, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

I agree this time, but when referring to them elsewhere it would be more encyclopedic to use the real names. Dora Nichov 12:18, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Wooly Mammoth
It isnt confirmed, so take it out of the list. The differences between the elephant in the box cover and the mastodon in the video arent enought evidence to confirm a mammoth. Someone out there just likes the mammoth too much and wants to force it on the list-201.32.158.58 16:26, 10 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah, that someone is named Komodo Lover...no matter what name appears. CBFan 17:34, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Come on, someone take the mammoth out, please 201.32.165.61 00:11, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

NO! If they want the mammoth then they'll have the mammoth. leave it alone. 87.113.195.150 17:55, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

That's like saying if you want to ruin Wikipedia then ruin it. Shut up, Komodo Lover. Dora Nichov 12:19, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, I dont want a mammoth!!!theres no evidence at all of a mammoth!!! please, someone with authority, take it out. 189.13.174.196 12:36, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes but everyine knows that the mammoth is one of the most famous of all extinct animals. Blah yap dribble 13:20, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

And? That's no excuse. Dora Nichov 14:10, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Didn't you read above the one that said mammoth. They all now know that is a mammoth, the nippled tooth would not be in the box art because the mammoth has a huge hump and corkscrew shaped tusks. Blah yap dribble 21:45, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

This isnt enought evidence to confirm a mammoth. I, for one, think that the animal in the cover is the mastodon. 189.13.174.196 22:05, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

That was you who insisted there was a Mammoth, Komodo Lover. ONLY you. Nobody else. Besides, you can't even SEE the teeth. CBFan 07:06, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

All the animals have been confirmed, no mammoth. Dora Nichov 11:06, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Archive?
I think we should archive this. So much speculation and stuff happens it all gets stacked up annoyingly. --JohnVMaster 04:09, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

PROBLEM ON SITE
some person has messed around with the page and I gessing it is a 10 year old or something--Brachioman 19:24, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Everyone's messing with the page. And what's wrong with being 10? I'm 11 (nearly 12) and am I a vandal? - Cuddly Panda (talk · contribs) review me! 09:23, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

no thats not not what I ment.(I am 12)am not saying that kids under the age of 13 are delinqunints,Im just saying it was probalby a person who didnt know what they were doing and I didnt mean to offend anyone around that age and I meant somebody jumbled everything up(probably by accident). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brachioman (talk • contribs) 20:20, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Moa
When was the moa confirmed? Pentagram16 17:40, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, And why did replace the utahraptor. 87.113.195.150 17:53, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

I bet its komodo lover who did that to get revenge. dont worry,ill fix it.brachioman 4:17 16 september 2007 (UTC)

BIG EA Update
They have finally added the EA page to the Zoo Tycoon site! The animals look amazing! Here's a link! I'm so EXCITED! I'm gonna update the main page now... THS | (Talk) 23:38, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Minigames
On the official site, it says that there are 5 minigames: Fossil-Finding Minigame, Fossil Building Minigame, Extinct Animal Creation Game, Dinosaur Rampage Minigame, and Disease Curing Minigame. 203.109.187.164 17:29, 20 September 2007 (UTC) (GrimpyNZ logged out)

Biomes
Someone messed with the biomes: the maston is boreal,not tundra; the deinosuchus is tropical rainforest; and sivatherium was pictured in savanna, not in grassland. 201.32.174.53 12:46, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Also, there is a screenshot with the diprotodon on wetlands, in the fansit kit. And if look at the Pink Elephant Disease, you will notice that the bluebuck is in a grassland exhibit. 201.32.174.53 12:51, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Fixed it.Dinomaster30 21:41, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Archive
I beleive we should archive this talk page; it is getting very long and stupid people keep asking about the game and not the article. - Cuddly Panda (talk · contribs) review me! 01:16, 23 September 2007 (UTC)