Talk:Zooropa/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Lemurbaby (talk) 05:19, 21 December 2010 (UTC)


 * GA review (see here for criteria)


 * 1) It is reasonably well written.
 * a (prose): ; b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
 * 1) It is factually accurate and verifiable.
 * a (references): ; b (citations to reliable sources): ; c (No original research):
 * Please substantiate the final assertion regarding the hidden track (alarm sound) following "The Wanderer" at the end of the album.
 * I'm sorry - are you saying I should cite an uncited statement about the alarm (which I don't see in the article), or that I should specifically mention it? Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk &bull; contributions) 07:39, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm referring to the statement following the list of album tracks in the Track listing section. The assertion there should be substantiated using a citation.
 * Oh geez, I completely missed that it was there! I'll find a reference. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk &bull; contributions) 19:13, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ Content revised. Lemurbaby (talk) 15:02, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Please complete the reference for footnote 44 (de la Parra) - there is no related citation in the bibliography. I also did not see a point when you cited the book in the bibliography listed as authored by U2.
 * de la Parra was added. The book "authored" by U2 is U2 by U2, which is comprised entirely of the band members' own words from interviews. They didn't explicitly write it, but all of the words in the book are their own. The WikiProject U2 typically credits the footnotes to Neil McCormick, who essentially edited the book and compiled the entire thing. In summary, the footnotes for U2 by U2 credit McCormick. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk &bull;  contributions) 07:39, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ Bibliography is complete. Lemurbaby (talk) 14:17, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ Bibliography is complete. Lemurbaby (talk) 14:17, 21 December 2010 (UTC)


 * 1) It is broad in its coverage.
 * a (major aspects): ; b (focused):
 * I would like to see the introduction expanded to provide an overview of a few more choice sections of the article.
 * I've attempted to address this in the last paragraph of the lead. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk &bull; contributions) 07:39, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ Lead provides sufficient overview of article content. Lemurbaby (talk) 14:17, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ Lead provides sufficient overview of article content. Lemurbaby (talk) 14:17, 21 December 2010 (UTC)


 * 1) It follows the neutral point of view policy.
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * 1) It is stable.
 * No edit wars, etc.:
 * 1) It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
 * a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): ; b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
 * The article is very text-heavy. Two or three more illustrations would contribute significantly to its readability. Macphisto was a Zooropa-era innovation, wasn't he? Is there a photo of him that can be added?
 * I've added an image of Brian Eno - I can't really think of any others that we could add that would be relevant (except for an image of the band somewhere). If you can find some free images of the group from that time period, that would be superb. But I'm afraid I have not found any, except for "The Fly" image of Bono from the previous year, and I doubt that one of MacPhisto exists (that would likely require request that someone's existing image be licensed for free use). Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk &bull; contributions) 07:39, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅Thanks for adding the Brian Eno photo. I've also added one of the shooting of the "Stay" video, which the user claims is her own work. She has also posted a second closer shot of Bono in which he is turned to face the camera, so it's possible she was there and these are her own work - unless both shots come from a book or perhaps a different version of the video from what I've seen. Do you recognize the image from a book yourself? Lemurbaby (talk) 14:17, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I actually had the same thoughts about the "Stay" images and asked the user about in on their talk page. It's apparently an image taken by a relative who did admin work in Berlin at the time. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk &bull; contributions) 19:13, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I've added an image of Brian Eno - I can't really think of any others that we could add that would be relevant (except for an image of the band somewhere). If you can find some free images of the group from that time period, that would be superb. But I'm afraid I have not found any, except for "The Fly" image of Bono from the previous year, and I doubt that one of MacPhisto exists (that would likely require request that someone's existing image be licensed for free use). Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk &bull; contributions) 07:39, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅Thanks for adding the Brian Eno photo. I've also added one of the shooting of the "Stay" video, which the user claims is her own work. She has also posted a second closer shot of Bono in which he is turned to face the camera, so it's possible she was there and these are her own work - unless both shots come from a book or perhaps a different version of the video from what I've seen. Do you recognize the image from a book yourself? Lemurbaby (talk) 14:17, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I actually had the same thoughts about the "Stay" images and asked the user about in on their talk page. It's apparently an image taken by a relative who did admin work in Berlin at the time. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk &bull; contributions) 19:13, 21 December 2010 (UTC)


 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/Fail:
 * Pass/Fail:


 * From one U2 fan to another, excellent work on this article! Once the minor issues above are addressed, I think it will be ready to go to GA. Lemurbaby (talk) 06:10, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Congratulations! The article looks beautiful. It's a pleasure to mark it as GA. -- Lemurbaby (talk) 15:02, 22 December 2010 (UTC)