Template:Did you know nominations/1900 English beer poisoning


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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:03, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

1900 English beer poisoning

 * ... that the 1900 English beer poisoning, in which over 6000 beer-drinkers were poisoned by arsenic, was originally misdiagnosed as widespread "alcoholic neuritis" for several months?
 * Comment: This is given in many sources, some of which I have included in the article, and some which I had omitted. (Mainly medical articles from the people who discovered the illness.) Copping is likely the most solid one. Groves and Whitnall's history website also states it. The figure of 4 months is cited by pretty much every article except for the court documents which state that the contaminated acid was delivered in March 1900, 9 months before the correct diagnosis. I found it prudent to change "4" to "several" here, as although the sources are not contradictory, I have doubts about how the outbreak's starting date was found. (ie. by the doctors who noticed something was off)
 * Comment: This is given in many sources, some of which I have included in the article, and some which I had omitted. (Mainly medical articles from the people who discovered the illness.) Copping is likely the most solid one. Groves and Whitnall's history website also states it. The figure of 4 months is cited by pretty much every article except for the court documents which state that the contaminated acid was delivered in March 1900, 9 months before the correct diagnosis. I found it prudent to change "4" to "several" here, as although the sources are not contradictory, I have doubts about how the outbreak's starting date was found. (ie. by the doctors who noticed something was off)

Created by Acebulf (talk). Self-nominated at 03:02, 19 February 2018 (UTC).


 * just my interest, will review Whispyhistory (talk) 06:40, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Symbol question.svg, thank you for writing an enjoyable story. Character count of article, newness all ok. Character count of hook too long. Some wording edited in article. Consider a few more but not major problem at all. Sources ok. Have you seen the original BMJ article, fyi? Reynolds All sources say neuritis. Neuropathy is relatively new in terminology and not mentioned in your sources, but is correct to link to. There is a link to neuritis too. However, there is no neurosis (which implies mental/psychiatric disturbance). Please clarify.Whispyhistory (talk) 19:55, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for reviewing the article. You're absolutely correct, I wrote "neurosis" instead of "neuritis", which is clearly wrong. I have corrected the hook above, and the article.
 * As for the BMJ article, I had a look through it early in the process of researching the article. If I recall correctly, most of the relevant parts have been reported by Copping, but I might have a second glance at it now that you mention it.
 * As for the hook, I counted 180 characters, but I'm uncertain if there are other restrictions on the length that I'm not aware of. I will try to come up with something that is a bit shorter as to fit within those guidelines. Acebulf (talk) 22:37, 19 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Alt1 .. that the 1900 English beer poisoning, in which over 6000 drinkers were poisoned by arsenic, was originally misdiagnosed as "alcoholic neuritis"? Philafrenzy (talk) 22:46, 19 February 2018 (UTC)


 * I think I'm exempt from QPQ because I have less than 5 articles listed on DYK. That being said I wouldn't mind doing a review, and might do one just for the good of the DYK community. Acebulf (talk) 23:09, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
 * . That's ok. I may edit a few more grammatical points if ok with you. Good to go. well done. Whispyhistory (talk) 23:14, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
 * . Thank you very much, and thank you for your fixes to the article. Feel free to do any modifications you might want. Acebulf (talk) 23:21, 19 February 2018 (UTC)


 * ALT2 ... that the 1900 English beer poisoning, in which over 6000 drinkers were poisoned by arsenic, was originally misdiagnosed as "alcoholic neuritis" for months?


 * I think this second alternate version is a bit more interesting as a hook. Misdiagnosis could have been a single instance, which is completely mundane, but for it to be misdiagnosed for several months is more interesting. Acebulf (talk) 15:55, 20 February 2018 (UTC)


 * ALT3 ... that the 1900 English beer poisoning, in which over 6000 drinkers were poisoned by arsenic, was misdiagnosed as "alcoholic neuritis" for several months?

NOTICE TO WHOMEVER MOVES THIS TO THE PREP AREA: Please consider including Ernest Septimus Reynolds on the same day. I will leave it to the discretion of whoever prepares the templates, and if this is not possible then disregard this comment. Also note my apologies for hurting anyone's eyes using all-caps bold text, I just needed to get the attention of the person doing the queues. Acebulf (talk) 19:29, 22 February 2018 (UTC)