Template:Did you know nominations/2-Butoxyethanol


 * The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as |this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by Allen3 talk 10:09, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Insufficient progress toward resolving outstanding issues

2-Butoxyethanol

 * ... that 2-Butoxyethanol can lead to hypotension, metabolic acidosis, hemolysis, pulmonary edema and coma, yet is still found in various household products?

5x expanded by Custodim (talk). Self nominated at 19:18, 26 March 2014 (UTC).


 * This article appears to be the subject of educational assignment. In the recent past there have been problems with chemistry articles expanded as part of class projects in which much of the added content was inaccurate, unbalanced, confusing, or otherwise problematic.  I'm not saying that is necessarily the case here, but I would recommend waiting until the assignment is over and then getting input from WikiProject Chemistry or WikiProject Chemicals participants before this page is featured on the main page.  -- Ed (Edgar181) 19:34, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm ignoring above suggestion; either the article makes it or it doesn't. I never know who wrote them or why, and wouldn't be interested to.Wnt (talk) 02:14, 5 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Article: Custodim began editing March 12 with 11199 bytes already written. It peaked at 16888 bytes on March 14 prior to nomination.  The article contains around  characters of "prose portion" by my analysis.  I think length expansion is dubious.


 * Content: the article doesn't have any immediately obvious slant overall, though on narrow technical issues one might exist, most likely by chance. In three random checks I could not identify close paraphrasing issues.  There was some trouble with sourcing - a sentence credited to source 2 didn't seem to be based on it, and sources 4-6 are temporary searches since expired.  Another sentence I examined involving 523 ppm smelled like a primary source used problematically, but technically the source is secondary. Overall: not quite right, but not necessarily a deal-breaker.


 * Hook: characters - OK. Before looking at the content note we can use ALT1 (same text):  ... that 2-Butoxyethanol can lead to hypotension, metabolic acidosis, hemolysis, pulmonary edema and coma, yet is still found in various household products?  Now for evaluating a hook I have a not insubstantial problem: I didn't have access to the source text.  Nonetheless, my thought is that such symptoms, if worth talking about, should be known in multiple sources.  I have added a second source for the hypotension and metabolic acidosis at the article, that's good... however,  says that "2-BE causes hemolysis only in mice and rats".  Also see .  In this context I think that's a big problem.  I see anecdotal reports of coma (though CNS depression is mentioned in the ref I added) and pulmonary edema, but I'm not seeing a convincing preponderance of evidence for them in the literature, and the citation used is not a direct test.  Bottom line: hook fails.


 * Other: I really doubt Custodim has 5 DYK credits yet so QPQ is not needed (Ah - QPQcheck says zero), and there's no image, so that's OK.

Bottom line for : you have to convince us you really expanded the article enough to get a DYK. You may need a new hook; otherwise please do us a favor and quote some source text backing up the hemolysis in humans. And the article has some significant problems (in large part because it's not entirely new). Wnt (talk) 02:14, 5 April 2014 (UTC)


 * To be more precise, the article contained 3978 prose characters prior to expansion, according to DYKcheck, which credits it with 7797 prose characters now. This is slightly less than a 2x expansion, and the article would require 19890 prose characters to achieve a 5x expansion. Like Wnt says, adding another 12093 prose characters is extremely unlikely, given that only 3819 have been added thus far. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:19, 5 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Symbol delete vote.svg Custodim has not edited since April 1. Given this lack of activity, I think we can safely say that the article will not be expanded sufficiently to qualify for a 5x expansion, so it's time to close this as unsuccessful. If, at some point, the article is nominated for and becomes a Good Article, it can be nominated again for DYK within five days of being listed as a GA. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:39, 18 April 2014 (UTC)