Template:Did you know nominations/2018 MLB tie-breakers


 * The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as |this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:23, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

2018 National League Central tie-breaker game, 2018 National League West tie-breaker game

 * ... that 2018 marked the first time that Major League Baseball had two tie-breaker games?
 * ALT1 ... that 2018 marked the first time that Major League Baseball had two tie-breaker games?
 * Reviewed: IOU 2 Template:Did you know nominations/Jos Canale, Template:Did you know nominations/Lampeln
 * Comment: We're still in the process of expanding both to Good Article Status because MLB tie-breakers is a Good Topic. ALT1 gets around the WP:SEAOFBLUE problem to make it clear there are two bold articles, not one.

Created by Muboshgu (talk), Spanneraol (talk), Mdumas43073 (talk), and Eposty (talk). Nominated by Muboshgu (talk) at 03:17, 2 October 2018 (UTC).


 * Reviewing -TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:39, 5 October 2018 (UTC)


 * The above noms have redundant highlighted links and WP:EASTEREGGs. I think we should use informative links for the readers as suggested below. Any comments?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:51, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
 * ALT2 ... that 2018 one-game playoffs for the National League West and National League Central marked the first time that Major League Baseball had two tie-breaker games in the same season?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:51, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Since the editing is currently very active on these articles I will hold off on commenting for a few days.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:06, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
 * The editing seems to be winding down and limited to the aftermath at this point. However, we now know the aftermath will not conclude until the season is over. I am actually quite shocked that the article is being presented without any mention that the Rockies were going for their first ever NL West title, which is as important as the Dodgers being 5x defending champs.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:14, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I realize that there is a whole featured topic of these to be modeled after, but I think each article should say Team A was going for their Xth National League Division title and Yth National League Foo Division title (if the team has moved divisions like the Cubs) for each team.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:31, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
 * The above are suggestions. However, here is the review:
 * Both articles are long enough and new enough.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:34, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I prefer the ALT2 that I have nominated to the other noms and consider this an interesting, well-formed hook.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:38, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Content is within policy.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:38, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
 * There are still no QPQ reviews presented.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:41, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Although I am not sure why, there are no images. It would seem to me that some biographical photos could be included, but I realize there are probably no photos from the game to include.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:43, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Can we get a citation for "This game was also in fact the first National League divisional tiebreaker ever to not involve the Dodgers."-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:50, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't know who added that sentence, and can't find a source saying that, so I deleted it. I'll do qpq shortly. – Muboshgu (talk) 00:47, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Isn't there a page somewhere on the internet that lists all NL tie-breaker results historically?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 12:08, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
 * The best appears to be this. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:02, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Which points out to me that the statement I removed was false, because the Dodgers were not involved in 1998 National League Wild Card tie-breaker game. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:03, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I thought divisional tie-breakers and Wild Card tie-breakers were different things. Why would a Wild Card tie-breaker invalidate the prior statement?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:34, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I had forgotten about this nom. You're right, it doesn't invalidate it, because of the "divisional" qualifier. But that's too trivial anyway. A tiebreaker is a tiebreaker. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:03, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
 * we are not really tasked with determining what is trivial. We summarize the secondary sources. If they are mentioning it, we should mention it. I consider it significant (but I am a lifelong Dodger fan).-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:50, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Agreed, but it was a Wikipedia editor who added it and I couldn't find it in secondary sources, which is the reason I removed it. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:57, 13 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Symbol possible vote.svg NL West still omits possibly the biggest leadup story that the Rockies were going for their first NL West title.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:21, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
 * This looks good now.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 11:47, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
 * However, the source also presents a fairly juicy fact that this was the first time in club history that they made the post season in consecutive years. Isn't that also worth a mention.--11:51, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
 * The treatment of the 163rd game is uncited in both articles.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:23, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Should we say that the game uses late season 40-man rosters instead of playoff rosters of 25 or 26?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 12:01, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Most of the Dodger aftermath is uncited.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:24, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Fixed.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 12:02, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Parts of the NLC aftermath and background are uncited.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:28, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
 * This is fixed.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 12:12, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
 * NL West article now mentions the Rockies never winning a division title. Dodgers aftermath sourced. One bit of trivia I couldn't find talked about by reliable sources was removed. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:38, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * This is mostly cleaned up. I have two posted questions about content above. Consider addressing them or responding as to why they are unnecessary.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 12:15, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Any updates on this?  This has stalled for two weeks already.  Vincent LUFan (talk) (Kenton!) 07:52, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, I forgot about this one because of how long it's taken., this meets all the DYK requirements. This isn't a GA review. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:51, 15 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Symbol confirmed.svg-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:17, 17 December 2018 (UTC)