Template:Did you know nominations/A Young Man's World

A Young Man's World
Created/expanded by George Ho (talk) on 18 February 2012. Self nom at 05:04, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
 * ... that A Young Man's World, a 2000 same-sex male pornographic video, was shot in high-definition video?
 * ... that A Young Man's World, a 2000 gay pornographic video, was shot in high-definition video?


 * Before you review, please do not confuse the MLA format as either bare URL or link rot. I discussed this in WP:Village pump (miscellaneous) (search "Presumptions of link rots vs. MLA format" in Archives if not present in its main page) and WP:Village pump (proposals) (search "Adding Modern Language Association format into Wikipedia?" in Archives if not present in its main page). Turns out that using one of MLA formats is fine for Wikipedia per Template:cleanup-link rot/doc and Wikipedia talk:Citing sources/FAQ. --George Ho (talk) 09:23, 29 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Symbol question.svg article, even though 11 days to nom it i think we can AGF this for DYK. Long enough and decently sourced except for the cast bit. There also IS an infobox for movies/porn movies so that can be added. The refs 4/5/6 are not vefiable and i think needs expansion. What he says about MLA is true but then it should be consistent (ie- source 9). Just checked the hook source which exists but is a dubious picture. Also not sure about the copyrighton the picture on the page.
 * Not sure about nom's need to review smethign else as nothing is listed here if he reviewed or not.Lihaas (talk) 01:19, 4 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Cleaned sources 4,5,6,9. Should I add this to verify HD? Also, why infobox at this time? Is that necessary for DYK? --George Ho (talk) 01:46, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Not sure if thats a RS source (thank god i wasnt at a public office comp today when i saw that). If so ten it should good, can also add the cast list from there as ref. Also are refs 11/12 the same? then you can use refname templates.
 * Also insteadof "same-sex male" in the hook why not "gay;" likewise 4/5/6 go to the same link so that can be consolidated as well.
 * Further infobox is not required bvt its nice for quick overview and organisation. Also isnt there a template? Virtually all articles have something for a template.
 * What the copyright status of the image?
 * Also with all this should be ready to okey it after QPQ. (you can review one of mine?)Lihaas (talk) 06:20, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

To answer above: I hope I haven't missed anything, have I? --George Ho (talk) 10:16, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) The reviewer from FriskyFans.org verifies that the video was shot with Sony high-def cameras.
 * 2) Image is non-free.
 * 3) Will do the infobox sooner. ✅ --George Ho (talk) 10:46, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
 * 4) Changed the hook sentence.
 * It there a better source than the image in ref 2? Also the infobox needs some unmentione things from the article sourced. And i dont believe non-free images are for DYL. (see the notice above).
 * And not usure what QPQ youve done? ALMOSRT good to go..Lihaas (talk) 00:59, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Truth and Justice (Afghanistan) and Template:Did you know nominations/Movement for Oneness and Jihad in West Africa. --George Ho (talk) 03:00, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
 * What makes the hook "interesting to the point readers will want to click on it"? HD video has been around for ages. Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:14, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Since when? This is one of pornographic videos shot in HD at earliest peak of HD rise, 2000. After all, this is a gay pornographic video before Blu-ray. --George Ho (talk) 23:17, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Then indicate that it is "before the rise of HD" or something. According to the article, by the 1990s HD already had a following. Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:57, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * HDMI started in 2002. High-definition television... I don't know the first invention of it. Widescreen HDTVs were bulky and expensive in the late 1990s/early 2000s and niche. What else can I say? I barely know how HD started. I just know that, at the time of this porn movie's production, HD wasn't popular and well-known. Why is the hook less interesting? Many porn movies in the 1990s and thereafter have been taped instead of filmed, as some have been. This gay porn is one of early gay porns shot in HD and then taped into one of media formats: either one of Betacam formats or something else before 2001. --George Ho (talk) 04:47, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Perhaps something like ALT2: ... that a review for the 2000 gay pornographic video A Young Man's World said it would "produce a whole new crop of chicken hawks"?
 * Mind you, chicken hawks would probably have to be defined in the article (I'm assuming it doesn't refer to the bird). Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:47, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Or ALT3: ...that a review for the 2000 gay pornographic video A Young Man's World said: portrayal of middle-aged male characters was demeaning to actual middle-aged men? --George Ho (talk) 05:53, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * If you don't mind a somewhat negative hook, no problem. However, grammar may be an issue. How about ALT4 ...that a review for the 2000 gay pornographic video A Young Man's World said its portrayal of middle-aged male characters was demeaning to actual middle-aged men?
 * That hook is no sourced on the page.
 * Also need some refwork per above to get sortedLihaas (talk) 06:52, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Right, should be noted as a paraphrase. Changed. Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:03, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Another paraphrase: ALT5 ...that a review for the 2000 gay pornographic video A Young Man's World said its portrayal of fictional middle-aged men was demeaning to actual middle-aged men? --George Ho (talk) 20:33, 8 March 2012 (UTC)


 * ALT5 good to go, tick based on previous review. Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:21, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * The ref concerns abocve are not answered yet.Lihaas (talk) 07:04, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Your revert broke the template, so I've fixed it. Please use the "Undo" function next time. Also, the information currently in the infobox does not seem to be of the sort that requires a citation. Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:41, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
 * What about the ALT5 hook that was submitted in Prep 2? Is moving Prep 2 into one of queues and leaving this discussion open acceptable under policy? --George Ho (talk) 09:09, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Symbol question.svg I missed your comment as it was buried there and you did not use a mark to note that there were issues. I messed up. Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:14, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry on the brea k ;)
 * Th eimage source could require improvement? Per the infobox, where did that info come from? the same place can be cited for credits not on page.
 * Ill leave the possible non-free image issue to Crisco as he seems to know more.Lihaas (talk) 15:39, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Right now the hook is moved to Queue 6. --George Ho (talk) 19:16, 9 March 2012 (UTC)