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The result was: promoted by Hawkeye7 (talk) 11:59, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Adelaide Ames

 * ... that astronomer Adelaide Ames joined the Harvard College Observatory as a research assistant because she could not find any jobs in journalism?
 * Reviewed: The Polish Peasant in Europe and America

5x expanded by Staticshakedown (talk). Self nominated at 15:15, 9 May 2014 (UTC).

I am very uncomfortable with the phrase “female astronomer”, which calls undue attention to gender. We would be unlikely to provide a hook, for example, to remark that "….male astronomer Carl Sagan joined Cornell after he was denied tenure at Harvard." Also, the current version of the article has several grammatical errors and should be carefully copy-edited before being featured. MarkBernstein (talk) 18:56, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
 * We can remove female from the hook but she was publishing work at Harvard at a time when it definitely was an anomaly for women to get credit for their contributions to science. The "female" is not meant to qualify her contributions as "undue" for a female, as you say, but rather highlight an early woman scientist who got credited for her work. This is the same idea behind the whole Women Scientists Wikiproject, no? static shakedown ʕ •ᴥ•ʔ  01:14, 11 May 2014 (UTC)


 * if we want to emphasize the historical exceptionality, then female needs to be historically qualified (the first female Senator, one of the first female physicians in France, etc.) MarkBernstein (talk) 11:57, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I get what you're saying. We can remove female from the first hook, or how about this alt? static shakedown ʕ •ᴥ•ʔ 13:12, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
 * ALT1: ... that Adelaide Ames was the first woman to receive an M.A. in astronomy from Radcliffe College?
 * ALT2: ... that Adelaide Ames observations at Harvard College Observatory challenged the idea that galaxies were evenly distributed or isotropic?
 * This also misses the idea of historical exceptionality, but it indicates a significant change that occurred because of her work.Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 16:38, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

for ALT2. Length, date checks out. Could check snippet view of Britannica for the hook fact, and seems adequately reworded to avoid close paraphrase. --Soman (talk) 17:35, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Symbol redirect vote 4.svg  Needs a complete, detailed review per  DYKReviewing guide Please get past the sticking place of the use of the word "female", and someone provide a full review.  — Maile  (talk) 00:36, 26 May 2014 (UTC)