Template:Did you know nominations/Alexei Vinogradov


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The result was: promoted by Gatoclass (talk) 15:41, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Alexei Vinogradov

 * ... that after the Soviet 44th Rifle Division suffered heavy losses in the Battle of Raate Road against the Finns in 1940, the unit's commander Alexei Vinogradov was executed in front of the survivors?
 * ALT1 ... that Alexei Vinogradov was executed in front of his command, the Soviet 44th Rifle Division, after it was decimated at the Battle of Raate Road?
 * Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mary Isenhour

Created by Pudeo (talk). Self-nominated at 20:22, 3 August 2015 (UTC).


 * Comment verifying the hook is going to be problematic since it comes from an offline printed book, written in Finnish. Brianhe (talk) 05:32, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Usually good-faith is used on foreign sources. The book in question is written by the Finnish historian Ari Raunio and the Russian historian Yuri Kilin (hence they could use archive sources from both countries). However, there seem to be English-language sources from Google Books with the search term Vinogradov+Suomussalmi: like this . I'll add that as an additional source. Pudeo' 13:39, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

OK I'm starting the review now. Reviewer -- Brianhe (talk) 21:47, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
 * new enough Symbol confirmed.svg nominated Aug 3, same day as creation
 * long enough Symbol confirmed.svg over 3k characters
 * policy Symbol confirmed.svg Neutral and each para has at least one citation. Offline sources accepted AGF as discussed above.
 * hook Just squeaks by at 197 characters, however is in passive voice with the DYK article at the very end. Encourage nom to consider rewriting as pithier. Symbol confirmed.svg New ALT1 accepted by nom.
 * other QPQ appears to be pending. QPQ rules stipulate "completed QPQ review". Please indicate at Template:Did you know nominations/Mary Isenhour if you accept the new hook, and I think it's done. Symbol confirmed.svg QPQ of Template:Did you know nominations/Mary Isenhour completed.
 * I finished the QPQ at Mary Isenhour now. I'm fine with either hook, the ALT1 as well, although I've heard some people complain that the unliteral usage of decimate, loss of 1/10, is incorrect. But I'm not sure if that's the case as the popular usage is indeed to describe heavy casualties. Pudeo' 23:20, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg OK, review completed; this looks good to go (I happen to like "decimated" but understand this can be further changed during review)! Brianhe (talk) 23:37, 20 August 2015 (UTC)