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Battle of Żownin

 * ... that during the long battle of Żownin, Cossacks managed to construct a bridge and move their entire camp?
 * Reviewed: Henri Simon

Created/expanded by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 19:53, 23 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Symbol possible vote.svg -- There are a few issues with the article itself. Mostly, it needs a good copy edit for grammar. On the plus side, the length is more than sufficient for a new article. The sources are Polish, but those can be accepted per WP:AGF. As for the hook, it should state what is important about the bridge the Cossacks built.
 * What about...
 * ... that during the Battle of Żownin, Cossack forces constructed a bridge under the cover of darkness to relocate their camp and evade capture?
 * Would be fine, but for the "evade capture" part, considering it was a battle the situation was more complex. I'd suggest dropping that part. And yes, feel free to help c/e the article, I am not a native English speaker, so such help is always welcome. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 11:51, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg I completed my copyedit. I think this one is GTG with the alt hook below:
 * ALT... that during the Battle of Żownin, Cossack forces constructed a bridge under the cover of darkness to relocate their camp? — Preceding unsigned comment added by caknuck (talk • contribs)
 * ALT is good for me. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 12:52, 31 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Symbol question.svg Symbol redirect vote4.png Independent review of ALT hook needed for the article to be given final approval. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:48, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for shooting this DYK down. You know it is impossible; only a few editors here can read Polish, the odds are tiny they'll notice your request, and night impossible they will have the book.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here  10:56, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what you're talking about. The reviewer introduced a hook with a new fact—"under cover of darkness"—and then approved a shortened version of that hook. That's just not allowed under DYK rules; you can't approve your own hook. (I'm not happy about the fact that the reviewer didn't ever sign a review, but that's neither here nor there.) A new, different reviewer should be able to check the article and see whether the hook facts are there and inline sourced, and AGF on the Polish if the source used isn't online or easy to get a sense of via Google translate. However, given your assumption of bad faith on my part, that new reviewer won't be me. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:54, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Ah, ok, I thought you meant that I did approve a hook on the article I wrote. For the record, under the cover of darkness is fine, but I am ok with having you another reviewer verify this. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 21:43, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Symbol redirect vote4.png Sorry for the confusion: I didn't think you had, it was the invisible Caknuck who created those ALTs and then approved them that I was referring to. I expect that new phrase will turn out to be fine, but it needs to be checked. Reiterating the icon so a reviewer doesn't think this has already been taken; ALT still needs reviewing! BlueMoonset (talk) 21:53, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting keep.svg AGF on hook source, everything else looks good with this article, and the former reviewer's copyediting checks out. Good to go, I'd say. Moswento talky 22:00, 5 January 2013 (UTC)