Template:Did you know nominations/Battle of the Lippe


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The result was: promoted by Hawkeye7 (talk) 19:56, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Battle of the Lippe

 * ... that general Cristóbal de Mondragón (pictured) was 91 years old when he commanded the Spanish troops in the Battle of the Lippe in 1595?
 * Reviewed: Not a self-nomination

Improved to Good Article status by Weymar Horren (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 20:02, 26 September 2014 (UTC).


 * Symbol voting keep.svg This article is a new GA and is both long enough and nominated in the correct timeframe. The hook fact is cited in the form of a quote from a book source which has a citation and I think the requirement for an inline citation is sufficiently covered. The image is in the public domain and the article is neutral but I could not assess whether there were any copyright issues because the sources are not online. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:21, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

I have reversed the promotion of this hook and removed it from the queue. At best it is dubious, more likely it is simply wrong, but it certainly shouldn't be presented as fact. I have given my reasoning and supporting sources at WT:DYK. Fram (talk) 09:49, 7 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Good catch. I have yet to find a suitable alt hook to replace the original. Maybe it would be appropriate to include a note in the article, mentioning that the birth year of the old general is disputed. Oceanh (talk) 22:18, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
 * As this has been hanging around rather a long time I have boldly edited the two articles on Mondragón and changed his date of birth to 1514. So I suggest:


 * ALT1 ... that general Cristóbal de Mondragón (pictured) was over eighty when he commanded the Spanish troops in the Battle of the Lippe in 1595? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:12, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Symbol voting keep.svg - Alas I don't speak Spanish, nor do I have access to the book (Google books says it's unavailable), but now that a note has been placed along with the source, I think that ALT1 is good to go. PanydThe muffin is not subtle 13:41, 6 November 2014 (UTC)