Template:Did you know nominations/Being Impossible & Patricia Ortega

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 19:04, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

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Being Impossible, Patricia Ortega

 * ... that Venezuelan director Patricia Ortega (pictured) learned that her film Being Impossible had been selected for South by Southwest just as the 2019 Venezuelan presidential crisis started? Source: "Interviewer: What were you doing when you found out you were coming to SXSW? PA: This is a good question! When I received the beautiful news that we had been selected to SXSW, in Venezuela, Juan Guaidó ends up proclaiming himself president of transition in my country." (SXSW)
 * ALT1: ... that though Venezuelan director Patricia Ortega (pictured) first feature film saw wide release in her home country, her more successful second feature, Being Impossible, has yet to be released there? Source: two, Ortega article "Career"
 * Reviewed: Fabiana Rosales
 * Comment: two QPQ done for two articles: Rosales and Die sieben Worte Jesu Christi am Kreuz

Created by Kingsif (talk). Self-nominated at 08:00, 23 June 2019 (UTC).


 * Symbol voting keep.svg These two articles are new enough and long enough. The image is appropriately licensed, the hook facts are cited inline and either hook could be used, the articles are neutral and I detected no copyright or plagiarism issues. Two QPQs have been done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:42, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Symbol question.svg Hi, I came by to promote this, but I'm having trouble figuring out why either hook is hooky. The first assumes knowledge on the part of the reader by conflating South by Southwest with the presidential crisis, while the other seems rather run of the mill. Yoninah (talk) 01:27, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I think that though the first does require some knowledge for a dramatic reaction, it doesn't need anything but an understanding the SXSW is pretty important in film to appreciate - it establishes that Ortega is from Venezuela, and says that she just found out about a great success as something titled 'crisis' happens in Venezuela. This is simple enough that it's at least mildly interesting for anyone with reading comprehension + has heard of SXSW (fairly common knowledge, I think). You're right, the second one is basic. I probably wasn't feeling very creative. Any suggestions of your own? Of course, the two pages can get separate hooks if you come up with different ones for them. Kingsif (talk) 04:23, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
 * ALT2 ... that the much-celebrated lead actress of the film Being Impossible, Lucía Bedoya, was still a drama student when it was being made?
 * ALT3 ... that though Venezuelan director Patricia Ortega had always wanted to make films, she first studied journalism at university?
 * Added alt hooks separately for each of the pages. Kingsif (talk) 12:20, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
 * well, I live overseas and do not watch films, so SXSW means nothing to me. Thanks for the alts. ALT2 is good, but if she's really "much celebrated", why doesn't she have an article? If you want this hook, you might want to write a stub for the actress so it will be a blue link. ALT3 seems kind of weak. I don't see any other colorful biographical details in the article to suggest a different hook. Yoninah (talk) 16:56, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
 * lol. The actress was much-celebrated for this film, the only one she's done; I'm not sure she meets the BLP standard. But I could write a good stub and propose it as the other bold link if you think there's nothing hook-y enough for Ortega. Of course, there are many hooks that go through that are absolutely bland, like "X made Y", so at least she would be a step up from those! Kingsif (talk) 16:59, 11 August 2019 (UTC)


 * ... ALT4 ... that Venezuelan director Patricia Ortega (pictured) has drawn strength from her film Being Impossible during both personal and political upheavals? Source: "This movie came in the middle of a storm: my mother got cancer, I was divorcing and my life changed completely. Being Impossible was the bridge that helped me navigate all these situations as a lifesaver.... When I received the beautiful news that we had been selected to SXSW, in Venezuela, Juan Guaidó ends up proclaiming himself president of transition in my country. I was worried and in the expectation of what was happening and I still have it." (SXSW) Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 01:14, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
 * , I've now made the page Lucía Bedoya, but I also like 's Alt4 a lot. Kingsif (talk) 18:59, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Just a quick suggestion for ALT4: change "the film" to "her film"; I think it will be significantly stronger with that one-word change. (The original hook up top uses "her film".) BlueMoonset (talk) 01:57, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
 * agreed and changed ALT4 Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 16:37, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Yes, I agree. We need a reviewer for ALT4. Pinging . Yoninah (talk) 16:50, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg Approving ALT4. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 17:43, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

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