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Bernice Gordon

 * ... that award-winning crossword constructor Bernice Gordon, who turns 100 today, is the oldest living contributor to The New York Times crossword puzzle and still creates new puzzles every day?
 * Reviewed George XI of Kartli. DS (talk) 15:55, 5 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment: please post on the morning (Eastern time zone) of January 11, 2014, as that is Ms. Gordon's 100th birthday. Article was built in sandbox over a few months, but only moved to mainspace today.

Created by Vlanard (talk). Nominated by DragonflySixtyseven (talk) at 15:19, 5 January 2014 (UTC).


 * Symbol question.svg The lead could be longer and some of the citation positioning is a little funky. Also are you sure that the Blogspot sources are reliable? Other than that the article looks fine, and the QPQ check was successful. 和DITOR  E tails 22:30, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I've fixed the lede. I'm not sure what you mean about the citation positioning. Yes, those particular blogspots are reliable. DS (talk) 01:10, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

(talk) 08:59, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Whatever. Article looks OK now. Symbol confirmed.svg 和DITOR  E tails 04:27, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Symbol possible vote.svg Why are those particular blogs reliable? — Crisco 1492
 * Symbol question.svg wordplay.blogs.nytimes.com seems fine per WP:NEWSBLOG. Although I'm not convinced by the blogspot links as only the blog claims that it is related to the LA Times. Anyway those don't affect the hook in general. What I don't find in the sources is that she was born on January 11, 1914 to verify that she'll turn 100 soon. Where is her exact birth date mentioned? Not in ref [1] and [2].  Lajbi  Holla @ me  •  CP  09:25, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I'd also point out that those are primarily being used to support discussion of her work. As for the date of birth, I'll see what Vlanard can say. DS (talk) 00:34, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Vlanard (talk) 00:52, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi folks. I am the author of the Bernice Gordon page, and her granddaughter. I will be seeing her later this week for her 100th birthday party. I don't believe the actual date itself (the 11th) has been published, just references to the month and year(deducible from her age in different articles). I may be able to get access to her birth certificate. Is that a verifiable source? As an aside, I will get more offline publication names/dates when I see her and swap out the LATimes blogs. Thanks. User:Vlanard
 * Birth certificate and/or census records (those from the 1940s and earlier) would be fine. Preferably the census records, as those are publically available (and not as dangerous to have online as a birth certificate). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:44, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
 * The census only lists her age on the given year, no birthdate. And I agree it would be unwise to post her birth certificate publicly, so I guess this is an unfortunate impasse.Vlanard (talk) 19:44, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
 * How about "this month" instead of "today", then? DS (talk) 00:39, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Source 2 (the UPenn one) certainly supports that; I've just added "January" before 1914 in the first sentence of the Personal life section so "this month" is properly inline sourced now. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:47, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Okay, so how about:
 * ... that award-winning crossword constructor Bernice Gordon, who turns 100 this month, is the oldest living contributor to The New York Times crossword puzzle and still creates new puzzles every day? DS (talk) 05:29, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg I feel that this is verified and the closest thing to the real date in the given sources. -- Guerillero &#124;  My Talk  05:47, 11 January 2014 (UTC)