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Bisher habt ihr nichts gebeten in meinem Namen, BWV 87

 * ... that in the Bach cantata Bisher habt ihr nichts gebeten in meinem Namen, BWV 87, the bass as the vox Christi sings the opening and "In der Welt habt ihr Angst" (In the world you have fear)?
 * Reviewed: Tidehverv
 * Comment: Bach cantata for the fifth Sunday after Easter, 13 May 2012, to appear between 12 May and 15 May (because 17 May is Ascension Day, with hopefully the next one)

Created/expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 22:01, 9 May 2012 (UTC)




 * Hook: Interesting... ish. AGF on offline reference. Why not something about losing his libretti?
 * Article: New enough, long enough. I added cn to a sentence which needs a source. No paraphrasing concerns.
 * Symbol question.svg Not yet, needs feedback on the hook and a citation. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:20, 12 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for looking! The dates of first performance are in all the databases under "Sources" and in the list by liturgical function, but I supplied an inline ref ;) The thing about possibly (!) losing a librettist would be true for all cantatas from Easter to Pentecost that year, I try to find something specific for the cantata in question, so far I met no other cantata with vox Christi twice. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:49, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting keep.svg Good to go! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:53, 12 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't agree with the translation of "In der Welt habt ihr Angst". That's a very literal translation. A good translation would be "In the world you are afraid". However, the source cited in the article translates it as "In the world ye shall have tribulation", so we should probably defer to that.--Carabinieri (talk) 12:00, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The "tribulation" translation is the King James version. I don't think that is superior to one closer to "Angst", if we want to convey the meaning of the German text. The one currently in the hook (movement 5) was found here, this is similar, this has "anguish" (but the wrong tense). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:11, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok, I wasn't aware of those other translations.--Carabinieri (talk) 12:28, 13 May 2012 (UTC)