Template:Did you know nominations/Boa catshark


 * The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as |this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Allen3 talk 12:10, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Boa catshark, Dwarf catshark

 * ... that the deepwater boa and dwarf catsharks are seldom caught by trawlers in the western Atlantic and Caribbean Sea?


 * Reviewed: Elmer McCollum
 * Comment: Also reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Tommy's Honour

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 09:04, 29 June 2016 (UTC).


 * I will do these two, one at a time. Watch this space for updates I guess.  MPJ  -DK 00:48, 30 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Boa catshark
 * QPQ done, long enough, new enough. Sources covered. Source links are okay, no copyright violations. Well written, hook is fine for main page.
 * Hook of "seldom caught" seems to be a deduction made on the basis of their habitat instead of specifically stated in the article? I have seen the rules be applied fairly strictly on hook verbiage, could you possibly bring the hook and the page a little more in line? That is the only issue I am seeing
 * Dwarf catshark
 * QPQ done, long enough, new enough. Sources covered. Source links are okay, no copyright violations. Well written, hook is fine for main page.
 * In this case I think the source covers the hook okay, so 1 out of 2 checks out (no DYK tick to ensure it does not accidentally get pulled into a queue yet.)
 * Can you address the concern about the Boa catshark article?  MPJ  -DK 00:58, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you. The hook relies on the statement in the "Status" section based on the IUCN source "there are no fisheries targeting these deep waters in the region". Cwmhiraeth (talk) 04:52, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg I must not have bookmarked this page, sorry about that. Yes that checks out for me.  MPJ  -DK 00:45, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Symbol question.svg Hi, I came by to promote this, but am puzzled by the discrepancy between the hook and the statement in the dwarf catshark article, This little-known catshark has a rather limited range and is seldom observed although it may be caught by deepwater trawlers working near the seabed. (The following sentence says it is "seldom caught". This discrepancy should be resolved.) Also, the hook implies that both species are found in both seas, which is not the case. The boa catshark is endemic to the Caribbean and the dwarf catfish to the Atlantic, per the sources. Should the word "respectively" be added to the hook? Yoninah (talk) 23:57, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I had the same question, see 's explanation above. And you are right "respectively" would ensure there are no misunderstandings.  MPJ  -DK 01:01, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
 * your question was on the boa catshark, mine is on the dwarf catshark. Yoninah (talk) 01:15, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I was always told that the Caribbean Sea was part of the western Atlantic, as in this statement by the IUCN about the boa shark "Endemic to the Caribbean Sea in the western central Atlantic". Does this help? I don't mind rewording things if you feel otherwise. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:17, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
 * yes, I see that the Caribbean Sea is part of the Western Atlantic in the article on the Caribbean Sea, but the hook seems to be making a distinction between them. And the source doesn't say anything about the dwarf catshark being found in the Caribbean. I think you could just reverse the order, without using "respectively":
 * ALT1: ... that the deepwater boa and dwarf catsharks are seldom caught by trawlers in the Caribbean Sea and the western Atlantic?
 * Could you also comment on my comment above about the dwarf catshark? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 19:15, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
 * ALT1 is fine. About the dwarf catshark, the source states "May be taken in demersal deepwater trawl fisheries, but this species is very rarely caught." I have rewritten the sentence in the article. Is that OK? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:42, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Or maybe you were bothered by my use of the word "observed"? Anything that lives below 200 metres is rarely observed because it lives deeper than divers can go. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:50, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg Thank you, your edit cleared up my concern nicely (your first answer was the one I was looking for). Hook refs verified and cited inline. ALT1 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 21:12, 18 July 2016 (UTC)