Template:Did you know nominations/Brattata, Jet Pilot, and Okay Hot-Shot

Brattata, Jet Pilot (Roy Lichtenstein), Okay Hot-Shot, Okay!

 * ... that Brattata, Jet Pilot, Okay Hot-Shot, Okay!, and Bratatat! are Roy Lichtenstein paintings featuring combat pilots situated in cockpits during air combat, while Mr. Bellamy is about an air force pilot on land?

Created/expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nominated at 04:24, 24 June 2013 (UTC).


 * Please be advised of an ongoing discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Visual_arts regarding the presentation of source materials.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 18:50, 25 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Reviewing: Template:Did you know nominations/Asana, Peru, Asana River, Osmore River--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 18:21, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Symbol possible vote.svg Four noms requires four QPQ reviews. You're one short. Other than that all four are new enough, long enough and fully referenced, and ready to go. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:15, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh. I think I am one short. I'll review another.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 21:30, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
 * 4th review (to go along with the triple above) Template:Did you know nominations/Battle for Castle Itter.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 21:44, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg Good to go! Hawkeye7 (talk) 22:41, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Symbol question.svg Why is the suggestion of a hook for an already-reviewed nomination considered to qualify as an entire QPQ review? Let's have a real, full review, please; there are plenty of nominations that need one. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:20, 11 July 2013 (UTC)


 * And, if I may point out, the trio of reviews (Asana et al.) are not yet complete: if a review doesn't have an icon that indicates whether the article or articles have been approved or need more work, it's not a finished QPQ review. An initial review should cover all the basics: age, size, hook length and sourcing, article sourcing, image (if any), close paraphrasing, NPOV, and so on, and include that icon. Tony, please let us know when those three are ready, and when the other fourth one you pick is also to that point. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:25, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
 * The first three are approved.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:42, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Here is my new fourth: Template:Did you know nominations/Art in Paris.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:26, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Tony, but it is not a full review covering all the basics—length, etc.—as mentioned above for initial reviews. Hook sourcing is only one piece, and easily fixable; everything that needs fixing (or not) should be mentioned in a QPQ review. Please let me know when you've finished that. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:49, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Reveiw completed.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:13, 14 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Symbol confirmed.svg QPQ requirement has been satisfied; restoring tick per Hawkeye7's review on 11 July 2013. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:02, 14 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Symbol possible vote.svg There is some overlap between these articles, so both Brattata and Mr. Bellamy fall short of 1500 characters of original content. Nikkimaria (talk) 04:33, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I have scraped the bottom of the barrel to expand Brattata. I hope this is enough for DYK standards.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 17:23, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Mr. Bellamy should be good.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 17:41, 15 July 2013 (UTC)


 * (ALT1)... that Brattata, Jet Pilot, Okay Hot-Shot, Okay!, and Bratatat! are Roy Lichtenstein works featuring pilots in cockpits during air combat, while the subject of Mr. Bellamy is a military officer on land?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 17:45, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Symbol redirect vote 4.svg  This needs to be reapproved.--18:27, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
 * If people are waiting for, she has stated just be patient. It would be great if this were reviews while DYK is still on 12 hour shifts. This could push 10K hits with the long shifts due to Lichtenstein's popularity.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 11:18, 20 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Checklist:
 * Brattata: 1988 characters, new four days before Tony nominated.
 * Jet Pilot: 1715 characters, new four days before Tony nominated. First paragraph is clearly copied from somewhere, likely some of Tony's other work.
 * I don't understand this issue.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:01, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Odd, don't see it now. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:06, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay Hot-Shot, Okay!: 3956 characters, new four days before Tony nominated. Sentence here supports most of the hook.
 * Mr. Bellamy: Nowhere in text does it say he's on land.
 * Symbol possible vote.svg There is still duplicated text. I note that both Jet Pilot and Brattata repeat the same paragraph (starting Lichtenstein was a trained United States Arm), which is 400 characters, knocking them both under the limit. Also, hook issues. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:32, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Duplicated text counts in one place. 400 should only be subtracted from one character count if it is in 2 places. 400 does not seem to knock Brattata under the limit, so subtract it from that one.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:38, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
 * That feels like playing fast and loose with the rules. How about, you know, paraphrasing one of the two? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:47, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
 * It is not playing fast and loose. It is original in one place and duplicate in another. Just assign it as original content to one place.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:31, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
 * (ec) And if I say it should be applied to the shortest (which it should. Since when is a "buy one item, get one item free" offer going to let you buy something for a dollar and get a ten dollar item for free)? You're arguing instead of taking the two to five minutes that paraphrasing a single paragraph would take. And you haven't even begun to address the more major issue of the hook not being fully supported. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:40, 20 July 2013 (UTC)


 * (ALT2)... that Brattata, Jet Pilot, Okay Hot-Shot, Okay!, and Bratatat! are Roy Lichtenstein works featuring pilots in cockpits during air combat, while the subject of Mr. Bellamy is a military officer?
 * Nowhere near the interest necessary for the main page. The other Tony would rightly comment on this at WT:DYK if this got to the preps. Can't you find a source which points to the officer actually being on land, instead of being on an aircraft carrier or something else? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:42, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I have rephrased.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:46, 20 July 2013 (UTC)


 * (ALT3)... that Brattata, Jet Pilot, Okay Hot-Shot, Okay!, and Bratatat! are Roy Lichtenstein works featuring pilots in cockpits during air combat, while Mr. Bellamy is an inside joke about a military officer?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:55, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg Better, better. ALT3 approved., others not. Ref checks out, length and age is fine, images seem appropriate fair use. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:47, 20 July 2013 (UTC)