Template:Did you know nominations/Carlos Brewer


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The result was: promoted by PFHLai (talk) 09:34, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

Carlos Brewer

 * ... that Major Gen. Carlos Brewer asked to be demoted to Colonel so he could command combat troops during WW2 because he was too old to command a Division as a General?
 * Alt1: ... that Carlos Brewer was a Professor of Mathematics at West Point when he was lost a chess game to 9-year old prodigy Samuel Reshevsky in 1920?

Created by N0TABENE (talk). Self-nominated at 22:07, 28 March 2016 (UTC).


 * Symbol question.svg. This DYK has adequate length. It is a newly created article and was nominated on the the same day. The article is neutral with reliable citations. Both hooks are reliably cited. I would prefer Alt 1 because this hook is more interesting than the other. This user has not nominated a successful DYK article before, therefore, QPQ check is passed. However, close paraphrasing detected. Will pass this when the copyvio issue is addressed. N0TABENE, please rewrite the sentences and phrases as pointed out in the copyvio detector. Cerevisae (talk) 10:12, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Copyediting done, however, the "tool" you used still marks proper nouns, and titles of organizations and actual titles of positions that he held as "copyright violations" and as you incorrectly put it "close paraphrasing", such as “Director of the Department of Gunnery”, “Brewer was promoted to Brigadier General”, “Army War College”, “12th Armored Division”, “head of the Military Science Department”, “25th Field Artillery Battalion at Madison Barracks”, “command the 7th Field Artillery Regiment”, “West Kentucky College in Mayfield, Kentucky”, “Command and General Staff College in Fort Leavenworth”, “graduating number one on his class”, etc. In addition, I used a direct quote, which is IN QUOTATION MARKS AND CITED PER WP:MOS immediately following the quotation which describes the system he developed for tactical artillery aiming and the importance to combat commanders in World War II. To label this as a "copyright violation" is a fundamental misunderstanding of the terminology and of proper academic citation, copyright law and a basic unfamiliarity with the concepts of probability statistics versus the mislabeled "Confidence" used by the tool you used. The designer and the user of this "tool" should have a basic grounding in the aforementioned before making accusations of "copyright violation".  NotaBene 鹰百利  Talk 22:53, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Copyediting done, however, the "tool" you used still marks proper nouns, and titles of organizations and actual titles of positions that he held as "copyright violations" and as you incorrectly put it "close paraphrasing", such as “Director of the Department of Gunnery”, “Brewer was promoted to Brigadier General”, “Army War College”, “12th Armored Division”, “head of the Military Science Department”, “25th Field Artillery Battalion at Madison Barracks”, “command the 7th Field Artillery Regiment”, “West Kentucky College in Mayfield, Kentucky”, “Command and General Staff College in Fort Leavenworth”, “graduating number one on his class”, etc. In addition, I used a direct quote, which is IN QUOTATION MARKS AND CITED PER WP:MOS immediately following the quotation which describes the system he developed for tactical artillery aiming and the importance to combat commanders in World War II. To label this as a "copyright violation" is a fundamental misunderstanding of the terminology and of proper academic citation, copyright law and a basic unfamiliarity with the concepts of probability statistics versus the mislabeled "Confidence" used by the tool you used. The designer and the user of this "tool" should have a basic grounding in the aforementioned before making accusations of "copyright violation".  NotaBene 鹰百利  Talk 22:53, 2 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Symbol confirmed.svg This article is now passed for DYK. Thank you for pointing out this problem. Cerevisae (talk) 10:31, 3 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Symbol question.svg I have trouble finding the footnoted ref for Brewer's request for demotion. --PFHLai (talk) 13:29, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I think it refers to this sentence "Brewer was 54 years old and was suffering from a back injury of his polo playing days so he was not surprised but, of course, was disappointed. He recalled that General Pershing had set the top age of division commanders in World War I at 50 years. Rather than take command of a training camp and see no combat service, he requested that he revert to his permanent grade of colonel in hopes of being able to get a combat assignment in the Artillery." from this source. Cerevisae (talk) 14:05, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
 * The footnote should be in the article for DYK purposes. Does the author have another/more ref materials in mind? --PFHLai (talk) 14:44, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
 * , I added the footnotes. Ref. 1 (Bradstreet) mentions that he requested demotion from Major General (3rd column, 1st paragraph). The 2nd ref (Arlington Nat. Cemetery) states the grade of colonel. Thanks for reviewing.  NotaBene 鹰百利  Talk 18:31, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the new footnotes. Looking good. Promoting to P5. --PFHLai (talk) 09:34, 12 April 2016 (UTC)