Template:Did you know nominations/Carolyn McAskie


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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:50, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Carolyn McAskie

 * ... that Carolyn McAskie was the first Canadian female to lead a United Nations peacekeeping mission? Source:Ottawa's female leaders say Hillary Clinton's defeat isn't the end; Ashley Burke; "... and made history becoming the first Canadian to head a complex peacekeeping mission."
 * ALT1: ... that Carolyn McAskie replaced Sérgio Vieira de Mello as United Nations Emergency Relief Coordinator in 1999 due to his mission in Timor-Leste?  Source:"Carolyn McAskie to Head OCHA as Vieira de Mello's Heads for East Timor". 
 * Reviewed: 2nd DYK nomination/QPQ does not apply

Created by Toreightyone (talk). Self-nominated at 01:35, 15 March 2018 (UTC).


 * Symbol confirmed.svg Article length and age are fine, no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, reliable sources are used, first hook is good. (I'm a new reviewer, second opinion welcome). Zeromonk (talk) 16:04, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Symbol question.svg Hi, I came by to promote the first hook, but the hook fact does not appear in the article. Also, it's not enough to put the citation in the nomination, it has to be an inline cite right after the hook fact in the article. Yoninah (talk) 22:06, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅ --Toreightyone (talk) 23:14, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you. But the source being cited doesn't say anything about her being the first Canadian woman to head a UN peacekeeping mission. It says: "and made history becoming the first Canadian to head a complex peacekeeping mission". Yoninah (talk) 22:33, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I believe I decided to add the first female to the hook because the definition of complex can be up for interpretation. If you go by the United Nations definition at, then complex missions are those post-Cold War, but I feel like that should be clarified in the hook.
 * ALT2: ... that Carolyn McAskie was the first Canadian to lead a United Nations peacekeeping mission, post-Cold War? Source: ALT0 Toreightyone (talk) 11:18, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
 * ALT3: ... that Carolyn McAskie was the first Canadian to lead a complex United Nations peacekeeping mission. Source: ALT0 Toreightyone (talk) 21:26, 28 March 2018‎ (UTC)
 * Question: What is this term "complex mission" in the article and hook? Does it have a link to a Wikipedia page. Yoninah (talk) 21:42, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
 * There is a mention of it in History of United Nations peacekeeping, but I think the main definition would be at under "The post-cold war surge". To summarize, a complex mission is one that requires additional levels of involvement. For example, a "traditional mission" would require a military to be sent to end the fighting; but a complex mission would see assistance towards the target nations, such as instating a democratic government, maintain stability, monitor, etc. I hope that explains it, Toreightyone (talk) 22:47, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg OK, let's go with ALT2, which is verified by the source. The source doesn't say anything about her being the first Canadian woman, so I removed that statement from the article. If you find another source that says that, you could add it back. While I added the link to History of United Nations peacekeeping to the article wherever it said "complex mission", I think it will be less confusing in the hook to say "post-Cold War" rather than "complex mission", so that's why I chose ALT2. ALT2 hook ref verified and cited inline. Rest of review per Zeromonk, with the addition of image in article being freely licensed. ALT2 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 16:44, 29 March 2018 (UTC)