Template:Did you know nominations/Cecil Newton, Sr.

Cecil Newton, Sr.

 * Symbol possible vote.svg ... that Cecil Newton, Sr. is the father of 2010 Heisman Trophy winner and 2011 NFL Draft first overall selection Cam Newton?
 * Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Murzynek Bambo

Created/expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 23:01, 18 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Symbol possible vote.svg Article is currently at AFD, which will need to be resolved before this goes on DYK, if it even should. Considering that almost all of the article is discussing a scandal involving he and his son, and that this is a BLP, I don't think it should.  Giants2008  ( 27 and counting ) 17:22, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Update: the AFD closed as no consensus. My opinion stands, for the reason I gave above.  Giants2008  ( 27 and counting ) 17:16, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I have no problem with it not appearing if that is consensus, but feel the article should be given full consideration by others. It is possible you are biased due to encountering this while it was at AFD.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 19:42, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I actually found the AFD after going to do a review here, not the other way around; I don't see how that has anything to do with the substance of my comment up there. Obviously my opinion is my own and others are free to feel differently.  Giants2008  ( 27 and counting ) 23:24, 4 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Not only has this cleared AFD, but the article as it currently exists checks out in other respects (length, dates, sources, plagiarism checks, etc.). I don't like the original hook due to its emphasis on a person other than the article's topic. I suggest the following alt hook (thoroughly supported by citations to reliable sources):
 * ALT1: ... that Cecil Newton, Sr. attended two NFL training camps without making the team, but both of his sons have played in the NFL?
 * Symbol question.svg I believe this will be ready to go, with the ALT1 hook, when TonyTheTiger completes a QPQ review. --Orlady (talk) 22:46, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't know what QPQ means, but I have reviewed a nomination.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 23:44, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg Adding the tickmark! "QPQ" means "quid pro quo," which is Latin loosely translated as "tit for tat." --Orlady (talk) 00:02, 5 October 2011 (UTC)