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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:42, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

Chan Yuen-ting

 * ... that Chan Yuen-ting became the first female manager to lead a men's association football team to a league championship in a nation's top league when Eastern Sports Club won the 2016 season?


 * Reviewed: I'll get around to it, unless someone's willing to donate one Template:Did you know nominations/Hu Lanqi
 * Comment: I hate this hook, but I can't find a better wording. Suggestions appreciated.

Created by The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk). Self-nominated at 00:46, 29 April 2016 (UTC).


 * Symbol question.svg New enough, long enough, neutral, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen on spotcheck of sources. The hook fact is very interesting and cited inline, though the wording could be tightened. I have shortened "league championship" to "championship" to avoid redundancy but you could also shorten it to something like...
 * ALT1: ... that Chan Yuen-ting was the first female manager to lead a men's association football team to a league championship in a nation's top league?
 * ... and we are also waiting on a QPQ – please ping me here when it's done. 97198 (talk) 16:55, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
 * 97198 There's now a QPQ. Getting rid of the word "league" is problematic because there are also cup championships and international championships (and Chan already won a cup championship a few months ago). The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 02:04, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg Okay, I have re-added "league" to both hooks. QPQ is done so either the original hook or the shortened ALT1 are good to go depending on the promoter's preference (or someone else may suggest another alt if they can improve the wording). 97198 (talk) 04:38, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I looked at this hook when filling a prep set but didn't like it. What does "a nation's top league" mean? Does the Chinese newspaper source know whether women have successfully managed teams in other parts of the world, or is this specific to China or Hong Kong or what? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:37, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Cwmhiraeth: "a nation's top league" means just that. In association football, there might be multiple levels of competition in a single country (like MLB and AAA baseball, or NBA and the D-League). This is the same as saying "top flight", which is a common shorthand but which I chose not to use because it's jargon. It's in the hook because I have no idea if (and the sources haven't commented on) whether any women have managed teams in lower leagues to championships. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 22:03, 4 May 2016 (UTC)