Template:Did you know nominations/Chrysostome Liausu


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The result was: promoted by Allen3 talk 02:58, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

Chrysostome Liausu

 * ... that French Catholic missionaries Chrysostome Liausu, François Caret, Honoré Laval and Columba Murphy helped established the first Catholic mission in Eastern Oceania?


 * ALT1:... that French Catholic priest Chrysostome Liausu was stationed in Valparaíso while his colleagues François Caret, Honoré Laval and Columba Murphy became the first Catholic missionaries in the Gambier Islands?
 * Reviewed: Bisrakh

Created by KAVEBEAR (talk). Self-nominated at 22:19, 27 July 2015 (UTC).


 * The article was nominated the day it was created. The article is very well-sourced and the sources check out, as far as I could tell (and there is no reason not to assume good faith when it comes to inaccessible sources). It is long enough, but the alternative hook is a bit too long (at 207 characters). I don't see inline citations next to hook facts as required by DYK rules, so I am afraid I cannot approve the original hook either. I suppose Hordern covers it but I cannot access the book and fix the "issue" myself. Checking the sources I can access, I have not noticed any instances of close paraphrasing. It seems the only issue there is to fix is the missing inline citation. Surtsicna (talk) 11:26, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
 * It's more or less a summary of the article. It would be awkward to have the sentence with the list of name in the body of the article though. Wiltgen 2010, p. 90 has all the essence of the first hook. --KAVEBEAR (talk) 11:31, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I understand. I have been warned about the lack of inline citations in such situations many times, though. I would personally have no trouble approving the hook, but could you try to address the issue (by copying inline citations perhaps) in order to avoid possible complaints? Would it be possible have the hook (or a shorter version of it) in the opening paragraph along with the citation? Surtsicna (talk) 11:43, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
 * The second sentence ("He helped start the Roman Catholic mission in the Eastern Oceania and was the Prefect Apostolic of Southern Oceania") in the intro has been sourced. Would that suffice? We can also simply only list Liausu in the hook which would solve everything but I wanted to provide some coverage for the other three as well.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 11:52, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Or can you approve the alternative hook which is basically sourced to Anderson and concisely within one sentence? We can shorten it like this to 192 characters:
 * ALT2:... that French priest Chrysostome Liausu remained in Valparaíso while his colleagues François Caret, Honoré Laval and Columba Murphy became the first Catholic missionaries in the Gambier Islands?
 * Symbol confirmed.svg ALT2 clearly fulfils all the requirements, and I believe the original hook is okay now that there is an inline reference in the opening paragraph. In case someone has an issue with the original one, ALT2 should not be problematic at all. Keep them coming! Surtsicna (talk) 12:18, 4 August 2015 (UTC)