Template:Did you know nominations/Clarence A. Shoop


 * The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as |this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:50, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Clarence A. Shoop

 * ... that long before retiring as a Major General, Clarence A. Shoop (pictured) was court-martialed as a cadet? Source: "Lieutenant (later Major General) Clarence Shoop at Griffith Park Airport" California Military Department and "Shoop was ordered to face a court-martial. He was convicted of both stealing and damaging government property and sentenced to six months' hard labor at Alcatraz prison..." page 80 of Howard Hughes: Aviator
 * ALT1:... Clarence A. Shoop (pictured) and his wife Julie Bishop were invited by Eleanor Roosevelt to Roosevelt's home in Hyde Park, New York? Source: ""I for Hollywood to begin work on a film, and Clarence for England. But some general took pity on us. He found some work for Clarence to do in California. "Then we came back to Washington and Mrs. Roosevelt asked us up to Hyde Park for a few days. So we had a wedding trip after all." Courier-Journal
 * Reviewed: Nehemiah Corporation of America

Created by Chris troutman (talk). Self-nominated at 08:33, 21 December 2016 (UTC).


 * Symbol possible vote.svg ALT-0 seems like it's good (ALT-1 isn't as interesting). Review:
 * Hook: Alt-0 is very interesting. It's inline cited to a book published by the Naval Institute Press which seems RS. I believe the specific citation, for DYK purposes, has to immediately follow the appearance of the hook in the article, in this case, after "... hard labor at Alcatraz Federal Penitentiary".
 * Policies: article and hook are NPOV and generally meet other policies, however, the word "pictured" needs to be italicized.
 * Length: article is long enough
 * QPQ: done - Template:Did you know nominations/Nehemiah Corporation of America
 * Newness: article created December 18
 * *Image: none
 * Plagiarism: per Earwig Violation Unlikely
 * Chris troutman - I think if you can just fix the one minor thing with the hook, and italicize "pictured", this will be ready to go. DarjeelingTea (talk) 22:43, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 01:13, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Symbol possible vote.svg troutman - sorry I didn't notice the image before. The image is credited as a USAF image but there's no evidence provided of it being such as the upload location is FindAGrave, which enforces a copyright. I attempted a reverse image search to see if it's discoverable elsewhere that has a direct chain of custody to the USAF but could not find anything. It's obvious to me, based on the pose and 3/4s headshot, that this is most likely a USAF photo and not a private studio portrait in-uniform, however, I'm not certain our personal assurance meets the standards of the Reviewing Guide. Would you consider replacing it with the photo of Shoop next to the aircraft? DarjeelingTea (talk) 01:55, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
 * The OTRS e-mail hasn't been acknowledged, yet. I've sent a request to the source of the Air Force image so hopefully that will straighten this out. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 02:46, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg OK - hook approved, image not approved DarjeelingTea (talk) 02:50, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment "long before retiring as a" could easily be trimmed from ALT0. Edwardx (talk) 12:10, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Agree Alt-0 is poorly worded. It's self evident that it was long before as the hook states he was a cadet. It could be rewritten as "Major General Clarence A. Shoop (pictured) was court-martialed when he was a cadet?" The reader will immediately apprehend that these events are at opposite ends of his career. Philafrenzy (talk) 09:49, 4 January 2017 (UTC)