Template:Did you know nominations/Coffee production in Thailand


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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 13:09, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Coffee production in Thailand

 * ... that coffee production in Thailand (pictured) was 50,000 tons during 2013 with a world ranking of 18?


 * Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Fall Brook (Lackawanna River)

Created by Rosiestep (talk), Nvvchar (talk), and Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Nvvchar (talk) at 02:09, 14 June 2015 (UTC).


 * I will review this article. ColonialGrid (talk) 15:43, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Article
 * New – The article is new enough, being created on 8 June and nominated on 14 June. Symbol confirmed.svg
 * Long enough – The article is currently at 1799 characters, but states that it includes PD text, I estimate this text to be less than 299 characters, meaning that the article is long enough. However, it would be good for, , or to confirm what text is in the public domain, and preferably place the text in quotation marks (the relevant text is in the History section, and is from Board of Trade (1891)).Symbol voting keep.svg
 * Within policy – The article is neutral and generally well sourced (I did remove one CN tag which I felt was erroneous). However, the lead is not supported by the given citation (if you look at yield, there are more than twenty nations that produce more coffee that Thailand), and there is some prose which I consider a little close:
 * Robusta coffee is planted in six provinces in the South, namely, Chumphon, Surat Thani, Nakhon Si Thammarat, Krabi, Pang-nga and Ranong, covering a total area of 423,947 rai(6.25 rai = 1 ha) - from page 3
 * The six provinces in southern Thailand where this coffee is grown are: Chumphon, Surat Thani, Nakhon Si Thammarat, Krabi, Pangnga and Ranong, covering a total area of 423,947 rai (6.25 rai = 1 ha) - from Coffee production in Thailand
 * There are also problems with the sentence: "Organic coffee is also cultivated in the highlands with an elevation above 800 metres (2,600 ft), which is inhabited by the indigenous people." which confuses a few things from the source, mixing up existing practice and potential organic opportunities.Symbol possible vote.svg

Hook
 * Format – The hook is formatted correctly and fewer than 200 characters.Symbol confirmed.svg However, I'm not sure how interesting is is, and it is not really supported by a citation (which actually says that Thailand is 18th as "Coffee, green, yield (hectogram per hectare)" and 22nd "Coffee, green, production quantity (tons)". I would suggest an alternative hook, potentially regarding the program to replace opium crops with coffee.Symbol possible vote.svg

Other
 * QPQ – A QPQ has been done.Symbol confirmed.svg
 * Image - Is freely licenced, and used within the article, but may not render that well at 100 × 100px (it just looks like a conveyer belt); I think the articles other image would be better, but will still pass the image.Symbol confirmed.svg

If the issues regarding article length, content issues (including sourcing), and hook issues I have raised are dealt with I'd be happy to pass this. ColonialGrid (talk) 16:33, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the review. The first lead sentence has been slightly modified and an additional sentence added. The two copy vio issues have been addressed. The PD sourced text (312 ch) has been put under inverted commas. The text in the last section has been made clear. I suggest the following ALT1 Hook.

ALT1 Hook ... that under the Thai/United Nations Crop Replacement and Community Development Project coffee cultivation (pictured) has been experimented as a replacement crop for opium?

I am also suggesting an alternate img with the alternate hook. After discounting PD sourced text the article has 1600 ch.-- Nvvchar . 18:04, 1 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your prompt response and for addressing the minor issues I found. I suspect the history section should read: In 1891, the Board of Trade's Journal noted that at the time, "coffee cultivation, in a suitable locality and under favourable conditions, offered more remunerative prospects than any other agricultural enterprise, but that Java did not export more than one-third of the amount which that island used to produce." [3] - But am nonetheless happy with the attribution of PD content (which is really only to satisfy the 1,500 character minimum, not so much for legal/plagiarism concerns). The new hook and picture are both improvements. As far as I'm concerned, this DYK is now good to go with hook ALT1 and File:Maejantai_Chiang_Rai_province_04.JPG. Symbol confirmed.svg ColonialGrid (talk) 18:14, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks,.-- Nvvchar . 18:42, 1 July 2015 (UTC)