Template:Did you know nominations/Colleen Ballinger


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The result was: promoted by 97198 (talk) 01:19, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Colleen Ballinger

 * ... that YouTuber and comedian Colleen Ballinger was nominated for a 2014 Teen Choice Award?
 * Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Tommy (album)

Created/expanded by Ssilvers (talk). Nominated by Pgallert (talk) at 19:04, 5 October 2014 (UTC).


 * Symbol question.svg - Long enough, extremely well referenced, however, I have two issues.
 * - Could somebody else check the tone? It appears to scrape by as ok, but a second opinion would be welcome.
 * The tone seems fine to me, and well up to the standard of the main author's FAs and GAs in prose. If, as I surmise, the concern is that the article is too pro-Ballinger I offer my own view, as someone who finds her comprehensively unfunny, that it seems fair and proportionate.  Tim riley  talk    18:54, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
 * - I am 100% sure Ms Ballinger doesn't own the copyright to the picture included in the article, and someone either needs to contact OTRS (either the photographer or a copy of a release giving her the copyright), or it needs to be deleted. PanydThe muffin is not subtle 17:03, 6 November 2014 (UTC)


 * The Lead image is a selfie that Ballinger donated to the public domain in 2012. It is a free image, as clearly explained on the image page. -- Ssilvers (talk) 17:48, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Consensus on that one was reached with astonishing speed. In which case there's one check to go and it's good to go. PanydThe muffin is not subtle 18:32, 6 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Panyd, where does this stand now? I don't see any mention of close paraphrasing and similar checks in the review—there has been a subsequent opinion expressed regarding neutrality—and the lead image has changed to one from Commons. I took a look, and while the new lead image seems fine, I'm not sure the use of the non-free file image from 2009 (the first in the Live comedy act section) is justified; Ballinger has a similar expression in the 2014 VidCon photo, so there is clearly a free equivalent already in the article. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:04, 16 November 2014 (UTC)


 * I now removed the non-free image that BlueMoonset refers to. -- Ssilvers (talk) 16:47, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
 * - Having questioned the veracity of the permissions given in the original image (as an OTRS 'agent' I'd seen a million of these claiming to be selfies, when at this quality they rarely are) - I was told I was a 'time-waster', who obviously hadn't spent the three seconds required to read 'selfie'. The nom is a delight to talk to, and I hope their work pays off, but I'm not touching this again with a 10 foot bargepole. I don't need that in my life. PanydThe muffin is not subtle 12:42, 19 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Symbol question.svg Starting from scratch, easier than understanding all this. Informative, detailed article on good sources. Sorry, I don't like the hook. The term YouTuber is new to me (forgive me), I am no friend of CamelCase, and think it says about nothing about her, - how about mentioning the character for which she is known? - I like your image, Ssilvers, but ride my hobby horse: please not on the left if it goes into the next paragraph, moving a header inward. She looks forward, could be on the right. (If you want to please me.) You could use that one for a DYK picture, showing ot a face but action. - Anything I missed? Don't find the selfie metioned, only saw fan images. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:41, 19 November 2014 (UTC)


 * ALT1: ... that comedian Colleen Ballinger character Miranda Sings (pictured) is ranked No. 7 among YouTube comedy channels?


 * I suggest an alternative hook above, but feel free to rewrite. I moved the image so that it does not run past the heading. By all means, feel free to use any of the images for a DYK picture. -- Ssilvers (talk) 17:41, 19 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Thank you. (I will say only softly that a left pic under a heading is also not to my old-fashioned liking, even if the TFA has it almost every day.) The new hook is sourced (please make the wording as precise in the body as it is in lead, - it's in the body that the ref is needed, in the lead only for facts not mentioned in the body). Reworded to place (pictured) more easily (unless we want it after the character name which would be possible, tweaked yours):


 * ALT2: ... that the character Miranda Sings, played by Colleen Ballinger (pictured), is ranked No. 7 among YouTube comedy channels?
 * Symbol confirmed.svg both ALT1 and ALT2, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:16, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
 * The pic of the concert can go (only) with ALT1, the other with both. I would leave the decision with the prep builders who may want variety. She deserves to be pictured, attrctive, and by article quality, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:47, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Actually, both of those are photos of Ballinger as herself. Here she is as Miranda Sings: Miranda Sings by Gage Skidmore.jpg. Feel free to use whichever one the prep builder prefers.  -- Ssilvers (talk) 23:36, 19 November 2014 (UTC)