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Crown Duel

 * ... that Jo Walton opined that Crown Duel was a book to "give to your twelve year old friends, and read it with your inner twelve-year-old eyes"?
 * Reviewed: Pilot (The Drew Carey Show)

5x expanded by Ruby2010 (talk). Self nominated at 21:47, 1 January 2014 (UTC).


 * I've never heard of this author or her series, but find the article fascinating. If you don't mind, I'd like to suggest a hook.
 * ALT1 ... that although Crown Duel fictional setting of Sartorias-deles is most like New Zealand, its customs and fashions were inspired by the court of Louis XIV? — Maile  (talk) 14:28, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the kind words! I love the hook you've suggested, and am perfectly fine using it.  Ruby  2010/  2013  14:34, 2 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Symbol redirect vote 4.svg  I think this needs another review to check the hook Maile suggested.  Ruby   2010/  2013  17:53, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Ruby, perhaps you misunderstood. I wasn't doing a review.  I was only suggesting an ALT hook.  It would be a pretty insufficient review to just say the article is fascinating (and it is). Yes, you are correct in that this nomination needs a complete review, and both hooks checked. — Maile  (talk) 01:14, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see. Sorry for causing any confusion!  Ruby  2010/  2013  01:17, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
 * That's OK. I think it's good to put that turn-around symbol up there in case somebody else thought I'd done a review. — Maile  (talk) 01:21, 8 January 2014 (UTC)


 * The reason I have not reviewed this, is because I have never reviewed a book hook before. But no one else seems to be diving in, so here goes.  Note, it will still take another person to verify ALT1, since I wrote that hook:


 * The following has been checked in this review by Maile
 * QPQ done by Ruby2010
 * Article created by Lauroragirl on August 14, 2007
 * DYK check confirms that 5X expansion began on Januray 1, 2014 and it now has 16,634 characters of readable prose
 * No edit wars, no dispute tags
 * Every paragraph (except the synopsis) sourced
 * Duplication Detector spot check found no copyvio
 * Disambig links tool found no issues
 * External links tool found no issues, but two sources that require subscription
 * Original hook is stated in the article and sourced
 * ALT! hook was written by this reviewer and needs someone else to review


 * Symbol question.svg The only outstanding issue is a different reviewer to check ALt1 hook. If that checks out, I believe this nomination is good to go. — Maile  (talk) 20:37, 21 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Symbol redirect vote 4.svg ALT1 hook needs independent reviewer. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:52, 26 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment: I don't think Angelfire.com is considered a reliable source. --PFHLai (talk) 04:20, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
 * While normally I'd agree, Angelfire in this case is used purely for its collection of personal interviews and communications with the author of this work. Angelfire is not being used to support anything controversial. I should also add that no criticism of this source was raised during the recent (and very thorough) GA review either. Thanks,  Ruby  2010/  2013  04:39, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Also, the author gives a direct link to Angelfire on her website. Thanks,  Ruby   2010/  2013  04:41, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Symbol voting keep.svg for ALT1. Thanks for the explanation. --PFHLai (talk) 12:08, 4 February 2014 (UTC)