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Cumdach

 * ... that some cumdachs or reliquaries for books were carried into battle as standards in Medieval Ireland?
 * Reviewed: Embleton Tower

Created/expanded by Johnbod (talk). Self nom at 21:29, 30 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Symbol question.svg great article, expansion fine, well sourced. Minor question to the hook: the explanation "book shrine" helped me more than "reliquaries for books", could the term cumdach be explained for readers not familiar with the topic, perhaps without "or" which I (first) understood as in "one or the other"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:46, 6 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I think that "book shrine" is more familiar in Ireland, but will puzzle most English-speakers (I can see it might be easier with a German background), whereas "reliquary" will be more familiar.  I could put it in parentheses, but I don't think we like that in hooks.
 * ALT1 "... that some cumdachs, reliquaries for books, were carried into battle as standards in Medieval Ireland?

- not sure how I feel about that.
 * Talking background: I feel (no more than feel) that "shrine" is rather better known in the world than reliquary. Also I didn't know that books were considered "holy" enough to be contained in reliquaries, - rather knew about bones. But I have language limits here, if you can convince me that what I feel is not right, ALT1 is fine. I would say
 * ALT2: ... that some of the book shrines called cumdachs in Medieval Ireland were carried into battle as standards? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:49, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmmm! Have you seen our rather strange shrine? In post-Reformation English it is generally a place rather than a thing. Johnbod (talk) 13:37, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
 * No, not seen, nor would I recommend to link, thinking that a shrine in a very general sense is understood as something containing something holy, Bhuddist, Shinto ... But I my be wrong? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:43, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
 * What do you think of a pic to illustrate what is meant? I don't think a "book shrine" would be misunderstood as a place.
 * ALT3:... that some of the book shrines called cumdach (example pictured) were carried into battle as standards in Medieval Ireland? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:53, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
 * The images in the articles are the only ones we have unfortunately. Johnbod (talk) 17:12, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I think they give an idea and invite to click on both pic and article. Could you accept ALT3? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:56, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
 * You haven't linked it, & as I've said, my own view is that reliquaries is more familiar to English-speakers, but I'd welcome other views, so I think this is better:
 * ALT4 .... that some of the reliquaries for books called cumdachs (example pictured) were carried into battle as standards in Medieval Ireland?   Johnbod (talk) 20:51, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:29, 7 November 2011 (UTC)