Template:Did you know nominations/D. J. Wilson


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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:21, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

D. J. Wilson, 2017–18 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

 * ... that with D. J. Wilson expected to enter the 2017 NBA draft, the 2017–18 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team was expected to be ranked by some media outlets.
 * Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Ariel Award for Best Actress (5th and 6th of 8 QPQs)

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self-nominated at 02:57, 5 April 2017 (UTC).


 * Symbol confirmed.svg The two articles are new and submitted in time enough, long enough and reliably sourced. Hook is referenced. Pictures good. QPQ done. BOTH Good To Go.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:49, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Symbol question.svg Hi, as a non-basketball fan, I don't understand the hook. Is a word missing at the end? What does it mean to be ranked? Yoninah (talk) 19:40, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
 * The main rankings are the AP Poll and the Coaches Poll. I think it would be fair to say that the press is referring to the AP Poll because that is the one that they vote on.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:29, 18 April 2017 (UTC)


 * (ALT1) ... that with D. J. Wilson expected to enter the 2017 NBA draft, some of the media expected the 2017–18 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team to be in the preseason AP Poll. --TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:29, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
 * OK, but I don't see the hook fact in either article. Are you making your own connection between Wilson entering the draft and the team being ranked in the AP poll? Yoninah (talk) 18:33, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Both articles say he was expected to enter the draft as of April 4, which was the time of the articles that the team was expected to be ranked. I have added the content about expected rankings to the Wilson article.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 11:59, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you, but where does it mention the AP Poll? Yoninah (talk) 22:26, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
 * There are two main polls (see 2016–17 NCAA Division I men's basketball rankings). The coaches poll (Coaches Poll) and the media poll (AP Poll). The media has to be talking about the media poll.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:49, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Symbol redirect vote 4.svg I'm sorry, I'm still having trouble following your line of thinking. Two facts are being strung together in this hook and it might be SYNTH. I suggest coming up with a different, clearly- sourced hook. But if you wish to pursue this one, I'd like another reviewer to sign off on it. Yoninah (talk) 21:29, 2 May 2017 (UTC)


 * We could wait until after the May 24 decision deadline and rework the hook with the expected content from that time.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 00:46, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Symbol question.svg Before anyone uses the UofMichigan logo on the main page, here are the University of Michgan Usage Policies Registered Marks. And here's the Permissions guide — Maile  (talk) 15:48, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
 * It's after May 24. TonyTheTiger, will there be a new hook or not? If not, the SYNTH argument may well prove telling, and sink the nomination. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:43, 28 May 2017 (UTC)


 * (ALT2) ... that with D. J. Wilson having entered the 2017 NBA draft, the 2017–18 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team was not expected to be ranked in the preseason AP Poll according to the media? --TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:58, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I still don't understand the connection between Wilson entering the draft and the team not being ranked, and I don't see any source that supports that statement; even the article doesn't mention it. I also don't see anything about an "AP Poll" in the ESPN, CBS Sports, NBC Sports, USA Today, and Yahoo! Sports sources. I believe a fact has to be mentioned in the sources, not implied by its absence. Are you sure you can't come up with a different hook? Yoninah (talk) 20:08, 29 May 2017 (UTC)


 * (ALT3) ... that with D. J. Wilson entered the 2017 NBA draft rather than stay in college and play for the 2017–18 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team? --TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:41, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
 * TonyTheTiger, ALT3 does not make sense grammatically. Please try again, and remember that it has to work as a sentence that starts "Did you know...". Thanks. (I've struck all the hooks to date; hopefully ALT4 will be workable. I've also removed the team logo due to the issues raised above; if you want the picture of Wilson to be used, please include "(pictured)" in the proposed hook.) BlueMoonset (talk) 18:23, 30 May 2017 (UTC)


 * (ALT4)... that D. J. Wilson entered the 2017 NBA draft rather than staying in college and playing for the 2017–18 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:42, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg ALT4 is fine: cited in both articles and sort of interesting (I adjusted the grammar slightly). Rest of the review per above. 97198 (talk) 10:41, 8 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Can I make a date request that this be displayed on the night of the 2017 NBA draft.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:46, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Moving to special holding area for June 22. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:09, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
 * , almost all of the draft selections will occur on June 23 (UTC). Can we move this to June 23?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:02, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 04:57, 14 June 2017 (UTC)