Template:Did you know nominations/Daisy Ridley


 * The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as |this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by  Rcsprinter123    (chatter)  @ 16:56, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Daisy Ridley

 * ... that Daisy Ridley is one of the unknown actors cast in Star Wars Episode VII?
 * ALT1:... that J. J. Abrams cast Daisy Ridley over Lupita Nyong'o in Star Wars Episode VII?
 * Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/LORAN

Created by Muboshgu (talk), Blaylockjam10 (talk), Dravecky (talk). Nominated by Muboshgu (talk) at 18:04, 4 May 2014 (UTC).


 * Symbol delete vote.svg Created on 29 April. Nominated 4 May. This is outside the 5 day window and is ineligible.  The C of E God Save the Queen!  ( talk ) 13:11, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Symbol redirect vote 4.svg April 30 was one full day of creation, May 1 was 2, May 2 was 3, May 3 was 4, May 4 was the fifth day. – Muboshgu (talk) 13:49, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Assuming the times in the article history and the nomination above are the same time format, the article became an article (no longer a redirect) at 20:36 on April 29, 2014‎ and was nominated at 18:04 on May 4, so 2.5 hours short of five full days. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:06, 6 May 2014 (UTC)


 * The C of E, if you wish QPQ credit for this, you will have to do a complete review here. While this should perhaps have been transcluded under April 29 rather than April 30, it was clearly nominated in time. I suggest you stop searching for nominations that you can fail quickly because they appear to be a few hours late—most of yours are being reversed due to WP:DYKSG—and do QPQ reviews of substance going forward. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:39, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Newness is acceptable. Article is over minimum length. QPQ is verified. However there is at least one close paraphrasing concern… Article: "According to sources she was handpicked above a string of more well-known names, including Oscar winning Lupita Nyong'o from 12 Years a Slave." Source: "Daisy was picked above a string of more established names including US actress Maisie Richardson-Sellers and Oscar-winning Lupita Nyong’o from 12 Years A Slave." C679 09:18, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I've attempted to rewrite that sentence. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:26, 8 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Symbol question.svg"according to sources" is not a good way to introduce the alt1 hook, per WP:WEASEL. While on the subject of hooks, the main hook has "unknown" actors, the source has "unknown actors" and the article itself has no quote marks at all. C679 18:17, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
 * We can remove the quotations. There isn't really any need for it. I dropped the "according to sources" ambiguity, since the source used doesn't hedge. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:35, 9 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Symbol question.svg Article is now looking better but proposed hook is not an "established fact" and the alt1 hook is not hooky. Perhaps an alt2 could be suggested. C679 10:54, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I fail to see what's wrong with either proposed hook. It is a fact that Ridley is relatively unknown, and I've seen less "hooky" hooks than ALT1 get promoted. There isn't enough known about her to come up with much else. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:05, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Symbol possible vote.svg First one is not an established fact which is required per the rules. Being known or unknown is not a fact but a subjective statement. I have seen less hooky hooks than ALT1 get promoted too, but not since the DYK issues at the end of April. C679 15:46, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment: From the sources cited in the article, the Huffington Post called Ridley "a relative unknown" and The Independent called her "unknown". That's two reliable sources prominently using the "unknown" descriptor, which should be more than sufficient for DYK. - Dravecky (talk) 17:02, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't really have anything else to add beyond what Dravecky just said, so perhaps we need another set of eyes. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:22, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Unless merging the hooks does the trick... – Muboshgu (talk) 15:24, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
 * ALT2:... that J. J. Abrams cast the unknown Daisy Ridley over Academy Award-winner Lupita Nyong'o in Star Wars Episode VII?


 * Symbol confirmed.svg That's the one. C679 15:38, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Great, I do think that's a stronger hook than the first two. Thanks for the review! – Muboshgu (talk) 15:46, 14 May 2014 (UTC)