Template:Did you know nominations/David Tannenberg


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The result was: promoted by PanydThe muffin is not subtle 12:23, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

David Tannenberg

 * ... that in the 1700s, David Tannenberg was the most important pipe-organ builder in the United States of America?
 * ALT1: ... that the pipe-organ at the Old Salem Museum (pictured) was constructed by David Tannenberg, the most important 18th century pipe-organ builder in the United States of America?
 * ALT2: ... that David Tannenberg was the most important builder of pipe-organs (pictured) in the United States during the 18th century?
 * Reviewed: Arthur Kober
 * Comment: There are two pics of this organ on the article page. I think we can work one into the hook, just not sure how.

Created/expanded by Twbaucom (talk), Gaff (talk). Nominated by Gaff (talk) at 03:04, 22 December 2014 (UTC).


 * The talk of "The United States of America" seems more than a little anachronistic for a subject who came to North America well before the American Revolution. EEng (talk) 08:24, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
 * My reasoning: If we put "America" it is considered USA-centric (which is a big no-no in the Wikipedia culture). Of note, Tannenberg, with some controversy, signed an Oath of Allegiance to the incipient US government in 1778, while he was still ~ 25 years away from his last organ construction (which he was tuning when he had a probable stroke.  The quote from the musicologist is in the article and clearly sourced.  It says "Tannenberg was the most important eighteenth-century American organ-builder." It can be interpreted in several ways.  If we put "North America" it presupposes that there was nobody more significant in Canada.  If we put "America" it exempts anything south of the border.  Gaff (talk) 09:02, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Why don't we let Canada worry about that if and when someone nominates this for the Canadian Wikipedia? EEng (talk) 10:23, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Not to get all WP:OR but it doesn't look like there were any big wig organ building Canucks in 18th century. So, how about:
 * ALT3:... that the pipe organ at the Old Salem Visitor Center (pictured) was constructed by David Tannenberg, who has been called "the most important eighteenth-century American organ-builder"?

Gaff (talk) 10:50, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Fine with me. EEng (talk) 10:59, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Should be good to go on ALT3. Please review. Gaff (talk) 05:49, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Symbol question.svg New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. Image freely licensed. QPQ done. Regarding the hook, the article and the image don't say anything about "Old Salem Museum". I expanded the captions with information I found in other sources, that the restored organ is housed in the Old Salem Visitor Center. Perhaps you could find a source and fix the location in the article, and then we can proceed. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 21:01, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Fixed: Old Salem Museum and Garden is the same place as the Old Salem Visitor Center (located at 900 Old Salem Road, Winston-Salem, NC 27101 http://www.oldsalem.org/).  The image used is appropriately licensed and obtained from Flickr of the same organ, as can be seen by comparing to pic here (http://www.oldsalem.org/tour/tannenberg-organ-tours/).  I changed the text in the article to visitor center instead of museum, for consistency.  --Gaff (talk) 20:54, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
 * * Please review and if you like, change the text in the hook to your preference. Gaff (talk) 21:01, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg Thank you. Since it now says "Old Salem Visitor Center" in the article, I changed it to that in the hook. I also put the claim in quotes. ALT3 hook refs verified and cited inline. ALT3 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 21:10, 26 January 2015 (UTC)