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The result was: promoted by — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:15, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Dearcmhara

 * ... that a prehistoric sea monster has been discovered in Scotland?
 * Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Magnesium monohydride
 * Comment: This one's for April Fool's Day.

Created by Prioryman (talk). Self nominated at 22:17, 12 January 2015 (UTC).


 * Symbol confirmed.svg. Length is good (2600+ characters readable text). Newness is good (12 January creation). Hook is good, cited in text, and appropriate for April Fools' Day use. No problems with copyvio / close paraphrasing according to both Earwig's tool and my own audits of the cited sources. You're good to go here. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 15:30, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
 * ALT1 ... that a sea monster was spotted in the sky of Scotland?
 * ALT2 ... that people of Scotland spotted a sea monster in what they call  "sky"?
 * ALT3 ... that people of Scotland spotted a sea monster in what they call  "skaɪ"?
 * ALT4 ... that a prehistoric sea monster has been finally spotted in Scotland?
 * ALT5 ... that a Nessie sibling was at last found in Scotland?


 * IMO, the main hook lacks ingenuity to qualify for a Fools' Day DYK. How about the ALT1 or something along this line? Otherwise, it clearly doesn't belong here. Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 11:29, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
 * You're allowed to change capitalization for April Fools' Day, but not spelling. ALT1 is not acceptable. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  19:56, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
 * And the word Skye has nothing to do, etymologically, with sky in any case. Prioryman (talk) 20:55, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes,, I'm aware that there is no etymological link between the two words, but it's not that there must be one. And too bad, , that we're not allowed to tweak the spelling. Thanks for pointing this out. Still, the name of the island is just begging to be used in the hook. How about ALT2 and ALT3? Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 22:47, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
 * In all honesty I don't particularly like either. If there's a pun in there I'm not getting it. Prioryman (talk) 07:54, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Fair enough,, it's your hook, after all. I just thought that making it sound as if the monster was seen "in the sky" would render the hook truly "presented in a manner that is possibly unbelievable to the reader" – something I find almost completely lacking in the original hook. Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 08:22, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I wasn't intending to be "unbelievable" but to invoke the Loch Ness Monster - you can bet many people will click on the link thinking of that. Prioryman (talk) 08:43, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see. Somehow the intended allusion has eluded me. To make it stronger for the likes of me, you may consider ALT4&5 or something similar. For one thing, in my eyes the words "spotted" or "found" are much less of a giveaway that the "monster" is just an archaeological find than "discovered". Cinosaur (talk) 09:43, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
 * ALT5 won't do, as the creature they discovered definitely wasn't any kind of sibling to Nessie (and it's too obvious anyway) but ALT4 has possibilities. How about this alternative as a development of it? Prioryman (talk) 13:20, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
 * ALT6 ... that the existence of a sea monster in Scotland has finally been proven?
 * I like it. Cinosaur (talk) 07:51, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Great!, are you OK with us using this hook instead? Prioryman (talk) 08:22, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
 * My only issue was the spelling change. I haven't really looked at anything else, so I have no further objections. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  20:42, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
 * As the original DYK reviewer, I'd consider ALT6 to be entirely fine (and better than the original option). Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 20:29, 20 January 2015 (UTC)