Template:Did you know nominations/Death of Irene Garza


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The result was: rejected by BlueMoonset (talk) 08:40, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

WP:BLPCRIME issues with hooks and article, none of which have been addressed

Death of Irene Garza

 * ... that the death of Irene Garza is an unresolved 1960 murder case involving a Texas beauty queen?
 * Reviewed: Hinduism in Uganda

Created by EricEnfermero (talk). Self-nominated at 05:00, 21 October 2016 (UTC).


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 * A google search does not reveal any copyright violation: Green check.svgY
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 * Symbol confirmed.svg Article is good to go. Cambalachero (talk) 15:40, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Symbol question.svg Could we jazz up the hook?
 * ALT1: ... that the priest who heard the last confession of Texas beauty queen Irene Garza is the only suspect in her 1960 killing?
 * ALT2: ... that the priest who heard the last confession of Texas beauty queen Irene Garza is suspected of killing her? Yoninah (talk) 18:53, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I thought about that but wasn't sure about the BLP unduly negative thing. I'll defer to your discretion on that. Thanks for looking at it. EricEnfermero (Talk) 21:42, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Well, he has been arrested and is going to trial. Calling on another reviewer to look at the alts. Yoninah (talk) 22:09, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I prefer the original hook, as it is focused on the case itself rather than in either of the people involved, who are otherwise not notable. Cambalachero (talk) 13:09, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
 * The murder suspect is not notable??? Be that as it may, the first hook is a statement of fact, not a hook. Yoninah (talk) 22:16, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg I agree with Cambalachero that this nomination meets the DYK criteria of newness, length, neutrality and policy. The original hook is unsuitable, being a statement that A = A, and I consider both ALT1 and ALT2 are satisfactory. It is difficult to point to individual cited sentences backing up the hook facts, but they are covered by many of the sources on which the article relies. Good to go. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:00, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

Pulled from prep, discussed at WT:DYK. Hook was unacceptable per WP:BLPCRIME, and article would need considerable work for the same reason before even another hook could be considered. Fram (talk) 16:32, 5 December 2016 (UTC)