Template:Did you know nominations/Deseret alphabet


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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:08, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

Deseret alphabet

 * ... that George D. Watt, the principal architect of the Deseret alphabet (pictured), would go on to criticize it just months after its original publication? Source: "I candidly confess that I never did like the present construction of the alphabet. I am now thoroughly convinced that it is not the most expeditious method of writing and printing, but on the contrary it retards the hand in its onward course." quoted at Deseret_alphabet
 * ALT1:... that at one point, street signs in Salt Lake City were written in the Deseret alphabet (pictured)? Source: Mentioned at Deseret_alphabet from Wentz' summary of Remy's book, A Journey to Great-Salt-Lake City (1855)

Created/expanded by Psiĥedelisto (talk). Nominated by Psiĥedelisto (talk) at 13:38, 15 January 2017 (UTC).


 * Symbol confirmed.svgle is plenty long enough and new, no copyvio detected. The sources are reliable. I like the alt hook, and really like the picture! White Arabian Filly  Neigh 00:14, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Symbol question.svg Numerous paragraphs lack any cites at all, per Rule D2. Yoninah (talk) 21:43, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your helpful criticism. I added many more cites. Remain only few paragraphs without cites, and I will attempt to explain why...
 * "Although the Deseret alphabet has letter case, the only difference between the minuscule and majuscule forms is that the majuscule forms are larger." This is easily seen by just looking at the chart. I could probably find a source for it, but this article is already very heavy with inline citations, so I decided to let this one slide due to its obvious nature.
 * The first few examples, I generated those myself by following Neil Walker Alexander's A Complete Guide to Reading and Writing the Deseret Alphabet. No cite would be possible, but this is not without precedent. Many examples here on Wikipedia for language articles are unsourced. See for example Spanish grammar, Tagalog grammar. I believe it is not good to copy examples of modern American English spelling directly from sources, as it could be a copyvio problem.
 * Anyway, thank you for opening my eyes to the few sections that were unsourced and could use sources. I hope that the article is now satisfactory to you. Psiĥedelisto (talk) 02:25, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello? Psiĥedelisto (talk) 09:13, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for adding the cites. I tagged two paragraphs in the article which make statements that really do need cites for verification.
 * A sentence in your lead seems to be copying the sources word for word:
 * Source: The Deseret alphabet was developed in the mid-19th century by the board of regents of the University of Deseret (later the University of Utah) under the direction of Brigham Young, second president of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
 * Article: developed in the mid-19th century by the board of regents of the University of Deseret (later the University of Utah) under the direction of Brigham Young, second president of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
 * Yoninah (talk) 17:39, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

I have added sources for the two claims you cn-tagged, and rewritten that part of the lead. Psiĥedelisto (talk) 00:35, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg Thank you, you did a very good job. All paragraphs cited and no close paraphrasing seen. ALT1 ref verified and cited inline. Image is freely licensed. Rest of review per White Arabian Filly. ALT1 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 14:33, 25 January 2017 (UTC)